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Joshua

Um. Isn't utilitarianism just the enshrinement of many people's liking instead of one as The Good?

Anyway, I would think that someone devoted to conservatism as a principle could very well say if something is all but universal and hardly any progress has been made despite repeated attempts to change it, that something may well be beneficial or necessary, even if the reason for it isn't readily apparent. If you must have rules of conduct, and Mill admits you must, and the decisions on what those rules should be are hard to arrive at, and emphasizing their historicity and arbitrariness would tend to undermine their effectiveness as restraints that make existence valuable, then unless you really have a knock-down argument for why specific things should be different custom should be valued and the human tendency to be influenced by its magic should be applauded. Put that way, I almost believe it. Certainly I wouldn't want to live in a society where the ground rules for every human interaction had to be hashed out anew from first principles which themselves would have to be argued out each transaction, even if it were in principle possible. Should I decide which side of the street to drive on each time I get in the car, or from moment to moment based on road conditions and surrounding traffic? If custom is useful or necessary, then it is possible for an appeal to many people's liking instead of one to be a valid reason.

dsquared

The move that Scruton and Oakeshott would make would definitely *not* be to start putting up "justificatory doctrines". You can no more justify a custom than you can calculate the Fourier transform of a wardrobe. A custom isn't an argument and it doesn't command agreement in the same way that an argument does. Custom and tradition are a different method of getting one's beliefs than rationalism, and in most cases superior. C'mon, re-read your Berlin on the development of anti-rationalism in the conservative tradition.

baa

Though for Oakeshott I might phrase the point differently, I think dsquared has pegged one aspect of the conservative response fairly well. Basically, it amounts to a meta-argument about arguments not being the best motive force for certain practical activities.

What is interesting here is that modern American conservatives are much more inclined to mount direct justificatory arguments. That's what I was alluding to when contrasting the conservatism of Kristol with that of Oakeshott.

There are many "generic" arguments against political change to which conservatives resort. (one of Dsquared CT colleagues took a stab at this, my version is a bit different --maybe again, just in phrasing)

1.Change is beset with unintended consequences and transition costs
2. Social stability is paramount, and tradition is its chief bulwark.
3. Tradition is the democracy of the dead, and contains lots of knowledge that isn't readily identifiable

Argument number one was a staple of neoconservative policy analysis, and got nice theoretical backing from public choice theory. The latter two are the arguments that most frequently bleed into the kind of "meta-arguments" mentioned above.

ogged

You can no more justify a custom than you can calculate the Fourier transform of a wardrobe.

But I'm not sure justifying a custom is the issue. It's a matter of justifying custom, as such, as a basis for behavior. That needn't be anti-rational. In fact, there are very good arguments for it.

In any case, the word "temperament" is pretty misleading as an explanation for conservatism, isn't it? It seems like a sloppy stand-in (now there's a job) for baa's 3 above. Rather than make the available arguments for respecting the not-always-articulable wisdom of custom and tradition, people attribute bias to temperament and call it ideology.

What conservatives ought to be doing (apologies if they're already busy on this) is getting over their fear that articulation leads down the path to destructive rational critique. It's a bit like not wanting to read a poem closely for fear the magic will vanish. But a close reading is what makes it interesting to the unconverted.

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