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Comments

Russell Arben Fox

Those libertarians. They so silly.

Adam Kotsko

Ernesto Laclau and Chantall Mouffe, in attempting to chart a course beyond Marxism ("we wish to be post-Marxist, but post-Marxist"), write that emancipatory politics might be advanced not only by Marxism, but also by liberatarianism and certain forms of Christianity. Most people reading that would respond, quite cleverly, "Pipe dreams of the world, unite!"

Matt

Really, does anyone think it's a coincidence that it was largely Marxists (Cohen and the like) that took Nozick seriously, while liberals like Rawls shrugged it off as transpartent idiocy? The links between the two views are not so small. (And since Cohen now calls for a neo-christian "revolution of the spirt" so we can _really_ achieve justice, maybe we can throw in some more pie-in-the-sky views, too.)

As I'm wont to do in such situations, I'll recommend Sam Freeman's "Illiberal Libertarians: why Libertarianism Isn't a Liberal View", from Philosophy and Public Affairs in 2001. A really terrific paper.

Carlos

Libertanianism and emancipatory politics? Considering the antipathy -- often crossing the line into psychotic hatred -- many libertarians feel towards Lincoln, that must be a *crack* pipe.

As for Friedman fils, aka the Bad Seed... no, too long a story. And it involves Usenet, which automatically turns anything into a baroque and incoherent revenge fantasy anyway.

C.

ben wolfson

There's also this Calvin & Hobbes strip, though.

Mike

So what form of government actually promotes a successful society that doesn't trample on the individual?

Socialism? Show me a socialist society that isn't collapsing under the weight of its own welfare expenditures. Many of the welfare states of Europe are moving away from socialism because they realized that, *gasp* it just doesn't work!

Communism? Violently overthrow the government, impose a totalitarian socialist state and hope like hell that the man at top will relinquish power? And you people talk about pipe dreams?

The Social Conservatives' government? Selective socialism, selective capitalism. Selective freedoms and selective invasions of private actions? The most schizophrenic type, though in theory it could work to a degree

Fascism? Only one country has tried it and even they, the Italians, found it to be less than workable because men and women were too afraid of breaking ranks to take risks necessary for national growth.

You people make the mistake of labeling libertarians like we're all the same. Many of us reject the irrational allegiance to principles when they fly in the face of reality. We tend to oppose violating principles when they involve hurting people and society, especially for personal or group gain by a minority. If you would spend more than five minutes reading libertarian commentary you'd know that what separates us from conservatives in America is that despite our differences, we agree on at least 2/3 of the issues.

Libertarians do not want a weak and ineffective government. Rather we want a government is very strong in its core competencies, but that doesn't meddle in every aspect of public life. We're not about firing 90% of the police in America, we want them enforcing the basic laws like murder, fraud, rape and theft, not drug laws.

Perhaps you should read the Libertarian Party's platform on education if you think that we favor an "everyone for himself" education system. The LP states clearly that it supports using vouchers to pay for education and private schools. The solution is to give parents more options, ie more freedom, where their kids go.

It is commentary like what you linked to that shows a lack of understanding of human nature. We libertarians tend to be well aware of Nietzsche's Will to Power concept. Sadly it seems that many of our critics, who view human nature as essentially benevolent, have never heard of it. Why is it that democratic systems rarely last longer than a few centuries? Because they become too powerful and the basic human drive to dominate and control takes over. The bureacrats take over and run via fiat.

The goal of libertarianism is efficiency. The government should have limited power to tell groups what to do. How many wars have been fought because one ethnic group took control of a big government? Too many to count. Africa is a good example of big government causing civil strife, not libertarianism. That the governments of most of its countries are all but nonexistant is not a sign that libertarianism holds sway but that the society is too weak to sustain them.

Of course if you want to argue the Civil War, please bring something more than the simplistic "Abraham Lincoln was good because he freed the slaves" rhetoric to the table. Lincoln was as racist, if not more so, than David Duke. Lincoln tried to offer the South a compromise which would have prohibited the federal government from altering or abolishing any state law or institution. The South didn't care because the war was about trade restrictions, not slavery for the southerners. In fact slavery was dying in the south at the time anyway.

Lincoln drafted over 2 million northerners and immigrants to fight a war against a part of the country that didn't want to control the government, thus it wasn't even to fight a civil war! And lest we forget, it was the illustrious Supreme Court of the United States that ruled that blacks could not be citizens.

Belle Waring

Umm, Mike, before you get all "Lincoln was a racist" on me, maybe you should read the Reason debate I was specifically responding to? I know there are lots of minarchist libertarians around who aren't utopian dreamers. I submit that Randy Barnett isn't one of them.

Nicholas Weininger

Um, have you actually ever read any of David Friedman's longer works? In particular, have you read _The Machinery of Freedom_ or, even better, _Law's Order_?

The historical examples of private, profit-making enforcement mechanisms he's discussing are, in fact, real historical examples, and in those works where he has the space to do so (unlike the Reason Forum) he discusses them in some detail. He also discusses, at length, the reasons why such agencies might or might not come to resemble mafias, marauding rebel militias, etc., and the mechanisms by which they might be kept from doing so.

In short: Friedman's philosophical approach is the *antithesis* of wishful thinking. He claims it is plausible that we might eventually be able to have private rights enforcement because he's actually sat down and thought at length about how to do it, how to handle the hard problems involved, and what historical examples can teach us about same.

Many of _Reason's_ readers are likely familiar with his work, and so understand that he's making reference to that serious thought. You, apparently, are not, and so can satisfy yourself with a dismissive sneer.

Nicholas Weininger

Aggh, I now see that Micha has made the same point, with less outrage, in his comments to your followup post. Good for him, bad for me. Feel free to ignore the previous (but do read _Law's Order_-- only two or three chapters actually say anything much about anarchy, and the rest is brilliant economic analysis of law even if you're a hardened statist).

Carlos

Told ya.

David Sucher

Do any pro-libertarian folks have anything specific to offer about the problem of the "hold-out?" i.e. how do you solve it absent state coercion? Whenever I raise the hold-out issue with a libertarian they always start talking about ponies.

(I would be happy to be convinced that that the pony exists and can be saddled.)

Btw, I heard David Friedman speak at a conference on population some 35 years ago. He was brilliant, no question, stunningly so, but also totally unpersuasive...I believe he was arguing for the abolition of public police forces.

Larry Hastings

I'm a Libertarian, and I'll try to answer your question. Though I don't claim to represent all Libertarians.

I believe that if someone doesn't want to sell something, they should not have to sell, period. In my view, "slippery slope" is inadequate to describe "eminent domain" laws--it's more like a cliff. I've heard plenty of stories of thriving businesses, or peacable homeowners, being threatened with having their property taken away just because some large developer wants to make a new mall, or a highway interchange... or, in Donald Trump's case, a parking lot for limousines. If we take away the right to refuse to sell, we eviscerate property rights, and I don't think any public need exists that is worth destroying property rights over.

And Mike, not all Libertarians agree with the LP's stated position on school vouchers. Harry Browne speaks long and eloquently against them, and I agree with him--government money means government control. Once a school gets dependent on government vouchers, the government will start dictating how the school must run itself, and before too long the private schools are no different from the government schools. Florida's school voucher initiative was a failure from day one because of the litany of regulations that accompany them.

Micha Ghertner

David,

The hold-out problem is perhaps the most difficult one for anarchist libertarians, especially when applied to large public goods like national defense. Friedman suggests a number of possibilities in Machinery, but acknowledges that none of them are fully satisfying. His willingness to acknowledge the flaws in his theories is the primary reason why I find these attacks on him as an unthinking clod to be extremely unfair.

For smaller holdout problems on the community level, solutions are much easier to come by. For one thing, less signatures need to be collected and it is easier to collect them all before everyone finds out what your doing and realizes that it might be in their self-interest to free-ride. Other possibilities include an entrepreneur who purchases a large area of land and then sells it back to consumers with an additional public good thrown in as an additional benefit. Similar proposals involve homeowners associations formed by either voluntary individuals exclusively, pre-purchases by entrepreneur or some combination in between.

One other important thing to remember, even while acknowledging that public goods do present a problem for anarchism, is that maintaining good government is the largest public good of all. To wit, from Bryan Caplan's Anarchist Theory FAQ (the whole section on public goods is worth reading, but this is the best part):

    Perhaps most fundamentally: government is not a solution to the public goods problem, but rather the primary instance of the problem. If you create a government to solve your public goods problems, you merely create a new public goods problem: the public good of restraining and checking the government from abusing its power. "[I]t is wholly owing to the constitution of the people, and not to the constitution of the government, that the crown is not as oppressive in England as in Turkey," wrote Thomas Paine; but what material incentive is there for individuals to help develop a vigilant national character? After all, surely it is a rare individual who appreciably affects the national culture during his or her lifetime.

    To rely upon democracy as a counter-balance simply assumes away the public goods problem. After all, intelligent, informed voting is a public good; everyone benefits if the electorate reaches wise political judgments, but there is no personal, material incentive to "invest" in political information, since the same result will (almost certainly) happen whether you inform yourself or not. It should be no surprise that people know vastly more about their jobs than about their government. Many economists seem to be aware of this difficulty; in particular, public choice theory in economics emphasizes the externalities inherent in government action. But a double standard persists: while non-governmental externalities must be corrected by the state, we simply have to quietly endure the externalities inherent in political process.

    Since there is no incentive to monitor the government, democracies must rely upon voluntary donations of intelligence and virtue. Because good government depends upon these voluntary donations, the public goods argument for government falls apart. Either unpaid virtue can make government work, in which case government isn't necessary to solve the public goods problem; or unpaid virtue is insufficient to make government work, in which case the government cannot be trusted to solve the public goods problem.

    David Friedman has a particularly striking argument which goes one step further. Under governmental institutions, he explains, good law is a public good and bad law is a private good. That is, there is little direct personal incentive to lobby for laws that benefit everyone, but a strong personal incentive to lobby for laws that benefit special interests at the expense of everyone else. In contrast, under anarcho-capitalist institutions, good law is a private good and bad law is a public good. That is, by patronizing a firm which protects oneself, one reinforces the existence of socially beneficial law; but there is little incentive to "lobby" for the re-introduction of government. As Friedman explains, "Good law is still expensive - I must spend time and money determining which protection agency will best serve me - but having decided what I want, I get what I pay for. The benefit of my wise purchase goes to me, so I have an incentive to purchase wisely. It is now the person who wishes to reintroduce government who is caught in a public goods problem. He cannot abolish anarchy and reintroduce government for himself alone; he must do it for everyone or for no one. If he does it for everyone, he himself gets but a tiny fraction of the 'benefit' he expects the reintroduction of government to provide."

Nicholas Weininger

David: by "hold-out issue" do you mean the "99 people will sell at the going rate to pay for the highway but the 100th guy insists on staying put" issue?

If so, then I can think of at least three libertarian answers: hard-core principled, non-incremental pragmatist, and incremental pragmatist.

The hard-core answer to how you solve it is: you don't. If a person really won't sell their property even if you offer them way, way more money than they could get elsewhere, you leave them be and route around them, or you don't build. Sure, that will sometimes cause some inefficiencies, but that's the price of liberty. We are not, after all, utopians. :-)

The usual objections to this boil down to: "But we reeeeeally neeeed highways!" To which the philosophically principled libertarian answers: how do you know that you need them more than that one guy needs to stay on his own land? If he won't take $10 million for his wretched little postage stamp plot, maybe he really values that postage stamp at more than $10 million, and then how dare you take it away for only $500,000? For, to a principled libertarian, interpersonal utility comparisons are wrong, period. There is no "common good" which you can appeal to to make the case for denying a peaceful, honest person their possessions.

The non-incrementalist pragmatist would argue: look, hold-outs exist, but they won't *always* exist-- far from it. When they do, you can usually get them to go away non-coercively by paying them several times *more* than the going market rate for their property-- and if the highway is really that important, shouldn't you be willing to do so? That leaves the minority of "ultra-holdouts". They will cause some economic difficulties. But eminent domain powers also cause economic difficulties-- since they are inevitably, and often grotesquely, abused-- and indeed these may be worse than the holdout-caused difficulties.

The incrementalist would build on the non-incrementalist's argument by saying: even if we can't get rid of eminent domain laws, we ought at least modify them by making the gov't pay the dispossessed owners 5X or 10X the going market value, rather than the 1X currently allowed. This would reduce abuse by making it more costly, and restrict the use of the power to cases where it truly provides overwhelming benefits. Also, it would allow us to see whether true "ultra-holdouts" were actually common enough to justify keeping eminent domain powers around at all.

Carlos

I've conversed with Friedman fils online, and have found him to be dogmatic, intellectually dishonest, and willfully blind to historical evidence. And yes, I've read the DDFR oeuvre, such as it is. It's amazing how he can write an entire popularization of economics and not have any macro in it.

IMO, he's not even worth debating. He's the sort of thinker who is only right by happenstance or by borrowing from his betters. I am saddened but not shocked by libertarians who use him as a touchstone. It's not like Nozick or Coase are inaccessible. His dad's book is good, too.

C.

David Sucher

Wow. I am impressed. Thanks for the thoughtful answers.

Much food for thought and my first reaction (after agreeing that there certainly are abuses in eminent domain) is now I understand why we have eminent domain: The arguments against and the alternative schemes all so theoretical and abstract that it is no surprise eminent domain exists happily side-by-side within capitalism: the business people who control the western economies recognize its necessity in the overall scheme of things, even when it may come back to bite them at the individual level.

For the vast majority of people who own little or no real property, the issue is pretty simple: why should the public forego or pay more for a site for, say, a rapid-transit line than market value because you have to bribe, so to speak, a hoild-out?

But the answers set forth here are stimulating and I will answer a bit on my own blog where I can opine at boringly great length.

Micha Ghertner

David,

It's usually not the big business people it comes back to bite; big business people have lobbyists and government influence to ensure that their ox does not get gored. Rather, it is the small business owners and small property owners who cannot afford their own lobbyists and therefore suffer the most. When it is your property being taken, the arguments against eminent domain don't seem all that theoretical or abstract.

For the vast majority of people who own little or no real property, the issue is pretty simple: why should the public forego or pay more for a site for, say, a rapid-transit line than market value because you have to bribe, so to speak, a hoild-out?

Perhaps because they feel that it is their property that they worked hard for and imbued with sentimental value. The home that has housed a family for multiple generations. Perhaps because even "market value" is not an objective value, in the sense that is is merely an aggregation of all of the subjective values of willing buyers and sellers. Because, unless someone is willing to sell something for a certain price, you do not know how much value they actually place on it, and you must instead impose your values or someone else's values where theirs should be.

Perhaps the greater good for everyone else is so great that it outweighs these concerns. But this kind of decision should not be taken lightly.

Navigator

Omigod,
this is too good to pass up:
Mike has this to say about the nature of big government:
"Africa is a good example of big government causing civil strife, not libertarianism. That the governments of most of its countries are all but nonexistant is not a sign that libertarianism holds sway but that the society is too weak to sustain them."
Stop - you're killing me! Africa is a good example of big government causing civil strife, because African governments are mostly nonexistant! Fantastic!
Anyone else reminded of the Saturday Night Live spoof of Hardball, wherein Harry Belafonte declares that "the poodle is the black man of the dog world," and then, when Chris Matthews begs for more material, insists that "Osama bin Laden is an Uncle Tom"? Classic. If these people didn't exist we'd have to invent them.

Bryant

My, that's an ugly trackback. I apologize sincerely; I forgot to add a title.

Anton Sherwood

The holdout problem for roads, at least, seems obviously easy (for most cases). Instead of picking the exact line of the road in advance and buying up the land on that line, you identify a wide area where the road could run and buy options on parcels within that area; when your accumulated options add up to a good route, buy only the needed parcels. This way you make the holdout compete with neighbors to the left and right.

W. Kiernan

Regarding eminent domain: I am a land surveyor so I've seen quite a few occasions when the State of Florida or Pinellas or Hillsborough County exercise it. Here's a fact: almost every time I've seen an eminent domain taking, the so-called "hold-out" is getting royally fucked.

See, they give you (you, the graveyard-bound retiree living the downhill slide in the familiar homestead you've occupied for four or eight decades) so-called "market value" for your shitty old run-down wreck of a house, on its nice big private old lot - as though you were eager to sell - but what you don't get is enough cash to relocate to any place half or even a quarter as nice.

I sure don't look forward to being an old man in this country, no indeed.

novalis

Your suggested usage of "pony" is actually already in common use in the Perl community.

Michael Rudmin

Just a comment here: emminent domain seldom bites the powerful. In my hometown city of Harrisonburg, for example, it was dually used [in the same month] to

(1) buy $10000 pieces of undeveloped property for $100000 as "parking", after an independent audit showed that the city had 5 times as much parking as it would use in the next 20 years

and

(2) expropriate a working restaurant (Old Virginia Ham Cafe), paying only $12000 for the site, in the heart of the downtown region, where the cost of relocation was in the around $70k.

That to build the "Justice Building", with a special contract with a building contractor who seems to get all the city contracts, regardless of bids or overruns.

So that said, emminent domain has something really going for it: powerful corrupt people want it, because it gives them what they want.

Now, for my own reality bite: until you have a way of interrupting the current system and progressing to your own system, in a natural progression, then you can't get there from here.

And if you're a libertarian, then starting a revolution is out [talk about raising the level of force?], so I'd say that libertarianism as a practical goal is usually not rational. Nice to talk about, but not rational.

However, there are libertarian societies. Consider the Amish. The way they got there, was through common striving at a *different* goal. When their striving was unified, and their behavior moral, then libertarianism was a natural consequence.

That said, I've only seen one goal that has given that benefit: Christian striving to follow God and be holy. At that, it's seldom that libertarianism has been achieved -- usually in the end, the Christians are distracted from their goal, and fall to bitter disputes and warfare. (Read the book of James... it even happened in the old Christian churches).

So the Amish, or Teen Challenge, or any of a number of other small groups that have succeeded, really have something special.

You want libertarianism? Go look at them, and observe closely.

bob

your calvin & hobbes links are dead.

Mike Rudmin

BTW... I forgot to mention that the $10k->$100k "emminent domain" was to purchase land from city council members. Specifically.

These deals are also almost never prosecuted. Do you really think that you're going to use power to steal power from the powerful, or stop the powerful from exercising their power to steal more power?

That is the one reason that I do not favor taxes -- period. That I do not favor emminent domain -- period. That I do not favor any of a number of schemes that promise to empower the little guy.

I simply don't believe any good will come from it at all.

Chuck

There is an extreme amount of intelligent discussion here, that I couldn't even being to match. But it just seems like a lot of you are missing really really simple aspects of this argument: libertarians are not anarachists, that goes against the entire principal of what libertiariasm is.


Every concern you've posted here is basically the concerns with people spouting anarchist theroies, and by labling these people in with libertarians you are giving libertarnism a bad name. You are grouping libertiarns as a whole based on a bunch of anarchist talkings by the Reason group. Go look at the Cato institatue, read thier books if you want true libertarism thought.

The government must exist to have a libertarnism society, But the reason the government must exist is to prevent another government from forming that wants to take away rights, also to protect indiviual rights. Courts/policemen/Jail are paid with by fines/labor of thoese arrested.

One of the best ideas I've seen is to have other things like firemen, funded by progressive voltunary user fees, This idea has actually been put into effect by an apartment complex in New york.

As to the hold-out situation: Nope, Thier home is thier castle, Don't touch it. I don't see why this is even an issue, It's like debating slavery, saying well keeping slaves would be better for the common good.

Anyway just wanted to throw that in

rule of 150

In a masterful tour de force, the reader is led from familiar and difficult-to-refute principles toward a geo-libertarian position.

Rebuttal of common libertarian arguments against land value taxes.

Dan Sullivan's essays

Ayn Rand's "Galt's Gulch" was actually geolibertarian, run on land value taxes with one monarch/landlord willing to interfere minimally in his tenants' lives, and letting them own their buildings probably.

Note also en: Wikipedia: green syndicalism and eco-villages, which do resemble the Mennonite/Amish paradigm. But so do all small tribal villages prior to state society, flags and such.

Why? the rule of 150.

strobe

Funny, I don't recall any "and a pony" arguments in this book: http://www.mises.org/rothbard/power&market.pdf

Sure, we can all mock any arguments based on such abstract ideas revolving around generalized ideal types, as we should since those arguments aren't realistic. In fact I should start by mocking the author's use of the example of the SEC which ought to be abolished regardless if it is a step towards or away from whatever utopian ideal.

Ultimately the only way to know what social order will work is catallactics. Arguments based on references to historical events or various dogmas don't work because society isn't a controlled laboratory experiment or a child's play thing.

Stop reading silly newsgroups and check out the book.

jennibot

I've always wanted a pony and will continue to do so until I have one. in its most basic form, a pony can be kept at grass and provides the greatest form of terrestrial freedom short of being a bird. a pony will carry you up mountains, ford rivers, cross any terrain, and say "nuh-UH" if the road ahead is going to put it at risk. you may have to bring along extra food & water for the pony, as for yourself on any daring excursions.

ponies also appreciate proving that you're not as balanced and secure in your seat as you think you are, cuz they're little s---s that would rather run off and eat than carry you around.

this is not a metaphor! ponies are cute & awesome little BRATS.

I'm going to get sleep now.

elaine

also, "and a pony" is old lingo on MeFi - although usually in reference to a completely fantastical feature.

Keith Dawson

Your link to the original Calvin & Hobbes strip has fallen victim to the copyright mafia. Quoth:


Welcome, you've come to the place where Calvin and Hobbes(R) once were honored with a great tribute and fan-site. Unfortunately the copyright owners didn't agree with that and made me shutdown the entire site.
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cleek

Courts/policemen/Jail are paid with by fines/labor of thoese arrested

nope, no incentive for false arrest there.

liberal

Most libertarians hate freedom---they believe in a form of landed aristocracy. See Dan Sullivan's brilliant essay, "Are you a Real Libertarian, or a ROYAL Libertarian?".

derek

I see I'm not the first tempted to reply to an old post that Brad deLong linked to a year later, so I'll jump in. On 8 Mar 2004, Nicholas Weininger wrote thus in defence of libertarianism against the "...and a pony" canard:

"...such agencies might or might not come to resemble mafias..."

"...and the mechanisms by which they might be kept from doing so...."

"...it is plausible that we might eventually be able to have private rights enforcement..."

Nope, no "...and a pony" thinking there.

Jacob T. Levy

I love this post as much as anyone else, and it's devastatingly funny enough that whether it's wholly fair or not has always seemed beside the point. I voted for it for the Koufax. But, on the occasion of Brad deLong invoking it again, I do want to register the following:

There's nothing distinctively or uniquely libertarian about and-a-pony reasoning.

And-a-pony is the business of assumign away precisely the problems that a critical reader thinks you need to be engaging with. And once you're assuming away the tricky stuff, why not pile on some assumed good stuff?

Bryan Caplan, quoted in comments above, accuses all non-anarchocapitalists of assuming away the problems of motivation and public-good provision that they rely on at another stage of the argument: "Obviously people won't voluntarily provide public goods-- except that if the public good in question is the intelligence and goodwill needed for good government, then they'll voluntarily provide it *and ponies too!" GA Cohen accuses Rawls of nearly the same thing-- stipulating a moral psychology of mutual disinterest, until the moment comes when people are suddenly highly motivated to see their fates as shared and to support the institutions of justice. I'd accuse Rawls of it in different moments; as long as your ideal-theoretic model assumes the compatibility of complete autarky and closed borders with a maximum-liberty principle, you might as well assume the compatibility of your moderate-scarcity condition with a rainstorm of ponies, too. [And the debates among Rawls-talmudists can be just as easily satirized as the discussion among hardcore libertarians Belle mentions.] Multiply your examples: as long as we assume away the problem of correctly identifying the philosopher-king, why not also assume that he rides in on a resplendent pony?

But the business of assuming-away in order to try to get at some question of principle isn't illegitimate; it's one moment of most kinds of moral reasoning. It shouldn't be the only or the last moment; and it's always subject to critique about *what's* been assumed away. But that calls for actual critique, not [or not only?] satire.

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Sony Ericsson T610......100 USD
Sony Ericsson Z1010.....180 USD
Sony Ericsson Z200......90 USD
Sony Ericsson Z600......130 USD
Sony Ericssson T630.....130 USD
Sony Ericsson S700i.....170 USD
Sony Ericsson S750i.....170 USD

MOTOROLA MPX 220 AT JUST $120usd,
MOTOROLA MPX 300 AT JUST $160usd,
MOTOROLA V661 AT JUST $145USD
Motorola A388C......170 USD
Motorola A760.......250 USD
Motorola A768.......260 USD
Motorola A768i......200 USD
Motorola A780.......290 USD
Motorola C550.......90 USD
Motorola C650.......100 USD
Motorola E365.......100 USD
Motorola E398.......120 USD
Motorola E680.......240 USD
Motorola RAZR V3....270 USD
Motorola V220.......170 USD
Motorola V303.......100 USD
Motorola V400.......150 USD
Motorola V500.......150 USD
Motorola V501.......200 USD
Motorola V525.......150 USD

Motorola V600 (OEM) w/ Bluetooth Headset..260 USD
Motorola V600 OEM...180 USD
Motorola V690.....170 USD
Motorola V750.....180 USD
Motorola V80......200 USD
Motorola V80 with Bluetooth...260 USD
Motorola V872.....200 USD
Motorola V878....180 USD
Motorola V300....150 USD

SAMSUNG D500 AT JUST $160usd,
SAMSUNG D415 AT JUST $120usd
Samsung E600...140 USD
Samsung E800...180 USD
Samsung P510...120 USD
Samsung SGH-D410.200 USD
Samsung SGH-D500..270 USD
Samsung SGH-E700..150 USD
Samsung SGH-E715..170 USD
Samsung SGH-P100..130 USD
Samsung SGH-P400..95 USD
Samsung SGH-P408..240 USD
Samsung SGH-P730..150 USD
Samsung SGH-S200..90 USD
Samsung SGH-S300..70 USD
Samsung SGH-S300M..100 USD
Samsung SGH-S500...100 USD
Samsung SGH-V200...110 USD
Samsung SGH-X400...100 USD
Samsung SGH-X430...100 USD
Samsung SGH-X600...100 USD
Samsung X450.......100 USD

PALM TREO 650 AT JUST $140usd
PALM TREO 700W AT JUST $160usd
PALM TREO 600 AT JUST $120usd

NEXTEL 1930 JUST FOR...$120USD
NEXTEL i870at JUST FOR..$140usd
NEXTEL i450 JUST FOR...90usd
NEXTEL 1860 JUST FOR..$110USD
NEXTEL i90c JUST FOR.. 95USD
NEXTEL i95cl JUST FOR.. 100USD
NEXTEL i30sx JUST FOR.. 103USD
NEXTEL i88s JUST FOR.. 40USD
NEXTEL i35s JUST FOR.. 30USD
NEXTEL i58srJUST FOR.. 55USD
NEXTEL i2000JUST FOR... 50USD
NEXTEL i850 JUST FOR...105usd

SIDEKICK 1 JUST FOR .... $100 USD
SIDEKICK 2 JUST FOR ..$120USD
T-MOBILE SIDEKICK 3 JUST FOR $150USD
iMate Jasjar............$250usd

iMate K-Jam................$170usd

iMate PDA2k...............$210usd
iMate Windows Mobile Pocket PC Phone .....$205usd
I-MATE Smartflip ....... $140
I-MATE K-JAM ......... $180
I-MATE SP5 ......... $150
I-MATE SP5m ......... $155
I-MATE SP4m ......... $120
I-MATE JAM Black ........ $150
I-MATE PDA2 ......... $190
I-MATE PDA2k ......... $168
I-MATE SP3i ......... $132
I-MATE SP3 ......... $135
I-MATE Pocket PC ......... $140
I-MATE Smartphone2 ........ $110
I-MATE Smartphone ........ $115
O2 Xda 2s ii ll Pda Phone........ $270

O2 Xda Atom Mobile Phone........ $260

O2 XDA II Mini Mobile Cellular Phone......$270
02 XDA IIi ......... $180
02 XDA IIs ......... $185
O2 X2i ......... $120
02 X4 ......... $130
02 X3 ......... $120
02 x7 ......... $140
QTEK 9100 (Stylish black) PDA Phone (Sim Free Unlocked).....$240)

TO MAKE YOUR ORDERS,WRITE US OR CONTACT MICHEAL BY CALLING +44-703-184-7129 OR EMAIL multichoicefone@hotmail.co.uk
http://multichoicefone.mylivepage.com/about

Lance tenor

, We are Legitimate registered company we sell all brand new electronics product. we ship our products worldwide through fedEX ,DHL or Ups. We sell all kinds of mobile phones such as Nokia,samsung, motorola, Sony Ericson, Nextel, Juicy SidekickII, PDAs phones,eg Qtek900 I-mate Jasjar, o2 xda exec, Dopod 900 and many more. and we also have all the model of Apple ipod, Xbox 360, Sony PSP and Sony PS3, and We are commited to our customers satisfaction and happiness. We render quality and effective services.
Email: smithleophones@aol.com.smithleophonesltd@yahoo.com
jide_telecom@yahoo.com, jide3006@yahoo.com.



JUICY SIDEKICK I...........$70USD
SIDEKICK II..........$100
SIDEKICK II MISTER CARTOON...... $120
JUICY COUTURE SIDEKICK II .....$110
SIDEKICK 3..........$130

02 Phones
o2 xDA Exec ........ $220
02 XDA Atom ........ $200
02 XDA NEO ........ $200
02 XDA mini S ....... $220
02 XDA II mini ...... $180
02 XDA IIi ......... $150
02 XDA IIs ......... $160
O2 X2i ......... $120
02 X4 ......... $130
02 X3 ......... $120
02 x7 ......... $140
Samsung D410.........$120usd
Samsung D500.........$130usd
Samsung D600.........$150usd
Mitac MIO 8930......$280usd
Motorola v3x.............$120usd
Motorola E895........... $130usd
Motorola L6..............$120usd
Motorola E680i...........$130usd
Motorla A1010............$140usd
Motorola SLVR L7.........$130usd
Motorola PEBL............$120usd
Motorola V6.............. $150 usd
Motorola RAZOR V3 .......$100usd
Motorola w220 ...........$120usd
Motorola A1200 ..........$120usd
Motorola A728............$110usd ...
i930.........$130usd
Nextel i870.........$120usd
Nextel i860.........$100usd
Nextel i90c.........$75USD
Nextel i95cl........$90USD
Sony Ericsson p990.....$200usd
Sony Ericsson p910i....$155usd
Sony Ericsson w900i....$140usd
Sony Ericsson K750i....$140usd
Sony Ericsson k800i....$152usd
Sony Ericsson k700i....$150usd
Sony Ericsson W800i....$145usd
Sony Ericsson W900 ....$190usd
sony Ericsson w600i....$160usd
Sony Ericsson d750i....$150usd
Sony Ericsson z1010....$180usd
Sony Ericsson M600....$180usd
Sony Ericsson M608....$200usd
Sony Ericsson W550...$200usd
Sony Ericsson.k790....$250usd

Qtek
Qtek 8500 ....... $130
Qtek S200 ....... $180
Qtek 9000 ....... $250
Qtek 8310 ....... $200
Qtek 8300 ....... $185
Qtek 9100 ....... $270
Qtek 8100 ....... $150
Qtek S110 ....... $175
Qtek S100 ....... $190
Qtek 9090 ....... $200
Qtek 8020 ....... $190
Qtek 8010 ....... $140
Qtek 2020i ...... $220
Qtek 2020 ....... $200
Qtek 1010 ....... $140
I-MATE PHONES
I-MATE Smartflip ....... $140
I-MATE JAMIN ......... $240
I-MATE JASJAR ........ $250
I-MATE K-JAM ......... $180
I-MATE SP5 ......... $150
I-MATE SP5m ......... $155
I-MATE SP4m ......... $120
I-MATE JAM Black ........ $150
I-MATE JAM ......... $160
I-MATE PDA2 ......... $190
I-MATE PDA2k ......... $170
I-MATE SP3i ......... $130
I-MATE SP3 ......... $135
I-MATE Pocket PC ......... $140
I-MATE Smartphone2 ........ $180
I-MATE Smartphone ........ $160
Treo 700...............$200usd
Treo 600...............$150usd
Treo 650...............$160usd
PPC-7600............. $200
Nokia N80.......$160USD
Nokia N93.......$200USD
Nokia N92.......$180USD
Nokia N91.......$160USD
Nokia N90.......$150USD
Nokia N70.......$140USD
Nokia N71.......$155USD
Nokia 8800......$140USD
Nokia 7710.......$145USD
Nokia 7610.......$120usd
Nokia 9300......$145USD
Nokia 9500......$170USD
nokia n73 ......$200USD
Nokia N75 ....$250USD
Nokia N95 .....$300USD

contact email address:
Email: smithleophones@aol.com.smithleophonesltd@yahoo.com
jide_telecom@yahoo.com, jide3006@yahoo.com.
Do kindly reply back now,thank's and God bless Mr Lance.
Thanks.

paper shredders

It's not like Nozick or Coase are inaccessible. His dad's book is good, too.

Rose

Home mobile shops Wireless Ltd. We are a registered and authorise
mobile phones distributors. We deal on brand new Unlocked mobile phones
with original boxes.We deal on all brands and models of mobile phones and
Computers such as Nokia, motorola, Samsung and many more at very cheap Prices,
we have mobile phones accessories such as battery, charger, keypad, housing, datacable, LCD. We supply many other electronic products, such as MP3, MP4, LCD TV, plasma TV, CD ROM, DVD writer, windows XP, office 2003 Software, IP phone, USB phone, bluetooth earphone, bluetooth USB dongle, etc.
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Our mobile Phones condition
Our phones are imported from Finland,Hungary and Singapore; they are factory
sealed with original packets with complete accessory, e.g. charger, extra
battery and software c d. The phones are simfree and it's never lock to any network.
EMAIL:homemobileshops@hotmail.com
EMAIL:homemobileshops@yahoo.com

Here are thePrice list for different products;
NOKIA 8850 SPECIAL EDITION..........$105usd
NOKIA 8850 GOLD EDITION.............$100usd
NOKIA 8800 AT JUST .................$140usd
NOKIA 8910 Black....................$110usd
NOKIA 9210 Communicator.............$110usd
NOKIA 9210i Communicator............$110usd
NOKIA 8910i.........................$150usd
NOKIA 9500 AT JUST .................$195usd
NOKIA 8850 GOLD EDITION.............$120usd
NOKIA 6060........................................ 100usd
NOKIA n70 ......................................180usd
NOKIA 9300 AT JUST .................$160usd
NOKIA N90 AT JUST ..................$130usd
NOKIA N91 AT JUST ..................$160usd
NOKIA N92 AT JUST ..................$170usd
NOKIA N93 AT JUST ..................$200usd
NOKIA N95 AT JUST ..................$300usd
NOKIA N75 AT JUST ..................$200usd
SONY ERICSSON T616 850/1900.........$180usd
SONY ERICSSON R520m(UNLOCK).........$89usd
SONY CMD-Z5.........................$89usd
SONY ERICSSON R380 World............$95usd
SONY ERICSSON R380s.................$90usd
SONY ERICSSON T68m..................$79usd
SONY ERICSSON T610..................$109usd
SONY CMD-MZ5........................$139usd
SONY ERICSSON P800(UNLOCK)..........$180usd
SONY ERICSSON P900(UNLOCK)..........$200usd
SONY ERICSSON P980i(UNLOCK).........$200usd
SONYERICSSON P990i JUST FOR ........$210USD
SONY ERICSSON W800i AT JUST ........$140usd
SONY ERICSSON S700i AT JUST ........$125usd
SONY ERICSSON Z800i AT JUST ........$240usd
SONY ERICSSON Z700i AT JUST ........$205usd
MOTOROLA V300[UNLOCK]C/R............$100usd
MOTOROLA V400[UNLOCK]C/R............$115usd
MTOROLA T720 C/R[CINGULAR]..........$80usd
MOTOROLA V600.......................$120usd
MOTOROLA V3 RAZ JUST FOR............$140USD BLACK COLOR
MOTOROLA V3 RAZ JUST FOR............$150USD SILVER COLOR
MOTOROLA V3 RAZ JUST FOR............$160USD PINK COLOR
MOTOROLA MPX 220 AT JUST ...........$120usd
MOTOROLA MPX 300 AT JUST ...........$160usd
MOTOROLA V661 AT JUST.............. $145USD
SAMSUNG SGH-A500....................$150usd
SAMSUNG SGH-T500 Champagne..........$100usd
SAMSUNG SGH-V200....................$110usd
SAMSUNG SGH-T200....................$110usd
SAMSUNG SGH-R225 TRIBAND............$95usd
SAMSUNG SGH-S307 850/1900...........$110usd
SAMSUNG V205[USED]TRIMODE...........$65usd
NEXTEL i930 AT JUST ................$110usd
NEXTEL i860 AT JUST ................$100usd
SAMSUNG D500 AT JUST ...............$160usd
SAMSUNG D415 AT JUST................$120usd
SAMSUNG SGH D720 JUST FOR ..........$170USD

Tomtom Navigator PDA For $300
I-Mate Pocket PC.....320
i-mate PDA2k..$337
i-mate JAM......$340
I-Mate...$333
i-mate JASJAR.....$340
Kinpo iDo S600.....$330.

Treo 700p...............$180
Treo 700w.............. $175
Treo 600...............$120
Treo 650...............$130
Nextel i930.........$110
Nextel i870.........$100
Nextel i860.........$100
Nextel i90c.........$60
Nextel i95cl........$90


QTEK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11

Qtek s200 =$100
Qtek 9000 =$130
Qtek 8310 =$200
Qtek 8300 =$210
Qtek 9100 =$240
Qtek 8100 =$250
Qtek s110 =$210
Qtek s100 =$200
Qtek 9090 =$210
Qtek 8020 =$200
Qtek 8010 =$180
Qtek 2020i=$240
Qtek 2020 =$250
Qtek 8080 =$130
Qtek 8060 =$160
Qtek 1010 =$150
Qtek 7070 =$250

DVD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Panasonic DVD-LS5 DVD Player...$150USD
Mintek MDP-5860 DVD Player.....$90USD
Panasonic DMR-E50S DVD Recorder...$190USD
Samsung DVD-L200 DVD Player..... $150USD
and many more.........................

GAMES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

W/xbox 360 hard drive,
Xbox 360 wireless controller,
Xbox 360 faceplate,
Xbox 360 headset,
Xbox 360 component hd-av cable,
Xbox live silver membership
(#xbox360pla) $260 per-unit buy 3 and take one free
play station 1... $120
play station 2 ...$130
play station 3...$250
x_box 360....$200
GARMIN 396...$150
Game boy latext edition......$110

PDA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Palm Zire 72 PDA-$100usd
Sony PEG-SJ33 Color CLIÉ Handheld PDA-$120usd
Sony CLIÉ PEG-UX50 PDA-$150usd
HP iPAQ Pocket PC hx4705 PDA-$160usd
Palm Tungsten E PDA-$60usd
Palm Tungsten T5 PDA-$80usd
Palm LifeDrive Mobile Manager PDA-$100usd
HP iPAQ Pocket PC HX4700 PD-$200usd
Sharp Mobilon HC-4100 PDA-$100usd
o2 XDAII MINI integrated Pocket PC & GSM phone-$300usd
o2 XDAIIS integrated pocket PC & GSM Phone-$330usd
HP Ipaq HX4700 Pocket PC -$200usd
HP Ipaq HX2700 Pocket PC .......$300usd

IPODS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Apple 4 GB ipod mini blue m9802ll/a'''''''''''''''''''''''''''''us$64.00
Apple 4 GB ipod mini pink m9804ll/a'''''''''''''''''''''''''''''us$64.00
Apple 4 GB ipod mini green m9806ll/a''''''''''''''''''''''''''''us$64.00
Apple 6 GB ipod mini blue m9803ll/a'''''''''''''''''''''''''''''us$68.00
Apple 6 GB ipod mini silver m9801ll/a''''''''''''''''''''''''''''us$68.00
Apple 20 GB ipod m9282ll/a'''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''us$69.00
Apple 4 GB ipod mini pink m9435ll/a''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''us$49.00
Apple 40 GB ipod photo''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''us$49.00
Apple 4 GB ipod nano'''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''us$69.00
Apple 2 GB ipod nano'''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''us$62.00
Apple 4 GB ipod mini silver m9160ll/a''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''us$49.00
Apple 60 GB ipod photo m9830ll/a'''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''us$86.00
Apple 60 GB ipod photo''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''us$49.00
Apple 30 GB ipod photo m9829ll/a''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''us$73.00
Apple 512 mb ipod shuffle mp3 player
m9724ll/a'''''''''''''''''''''''us$56.00
Apple 4 GB ipod mini blue
m9436ll/a''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''us$49.00
Apple 20 GB ipod u2 special
edition'''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''us$73.00
Apple 6 GB ipod mini green
m9807ll/a''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''us$64.00
New apple 60 GB video ipod'''''''''''''''''us$100.00
New apple 30 GB video ipod'''''''''''''''''us$80.00
SIDE-KICK 2 AND 3
T-Mobile Sidekick II Cell Phone...............................$100
T-Mobile Sidekick II..........................................$80
Sidekick II T-Mobile with Color Screen........................$150
T-Mobile Sidekick II TMO to Go Prepaid Phone..................$110
T-Mobile Sidekick II Phone (T-Mobile).........................$100
T-Mobile Sidekick II T-Mobile Replacement Phone...............$170
T-Mobile Sidekick - Data Only Product Features................$90
T-Mobile SideKick II..........................................$100
Mobile Sidekick II............................................$100
Mobile Sidekick III...........................................$130
Sidekick III Wood Look Skin & Screen Protector Brand New .....$160
Sidekick II Red Sparkle Skin/Screen Protector Cover New ......$170
Danger hiptop / T-Mobile Sidekick Universal FM Radio .........$190

PANASONIC PLASMA TV

Panasonic TH-37PHD8UK Plasma $350
Panasonic TH-42PWD8UK Plasma $600
Panasonic TH-42PHD8UK Plasma $500
Panasonic TH-42PD50U EDTV $ 450
Panasonic TH-42PX50U Plasma $650
Panasonic TH-50PX50U Plasma $700
panasonic TH-65PHD8UK Plasma $900

SONY PLASMA TV

SONY FWD-42PV1 Plasma Display $500
Sony PFM-42X1 Plasma Display $550
Sony FWD-50PX2 Plasma Display $700

PHILIPS PLASMA TV

Philips 42PF7320A/37 Plasma TV $600
Philips 42PF9630A/37 Plasma HDTV $700
Philips 50PF7320A/37 Plasma HDTV $720
Philips 50PF9630A/37 Plasma HDTV $550
Philips 50PF9830A/37 Plasma HDTV $800

SAMSUNG PLASMA TV

SAMSUNG HPP3761 Plasma TV $610
Samsung PPM42M5S Plasma Display $505
Samsung SPP4251 Plasma TV $700
Samsung PPM42M5H Plasma Display $550
Samsung HPR4252 Plasma $680
Samsung HPR4262 Plasma TV $450
Samsung HPR4272 Plasma $560
Samsung PPM50M5H Plasma Display $870

HITACHI PLASMA TV

Hitachi CMP4211u Plasma $850
Hitachi CMP4212u Plasma $350
Hitachi 42HDF52 Plasma HDTV $400
Hitachi 42HDT52 Plasma TV $440
Hitachi 55HDS52 Plasma HDTV $480
Hitachi 55HDT52 Plasma TV $650
Hitachi CMP-55HDM71 Plasma $420

AOC ENVISION PLASMA TV

AOC Envision A42W64 Plasma $400
MAXENT PLASMA TV
Maxent MX-42VM7 Plasma EDTV $370
Maxent MX-50X2 Plasma $300

NEC PLASMA TV

NEC 42VP5 Plasma TV $400
NEC 42VM5HA Plasma TV $470
NEC 42VR5HA Plasma - Silver $300
NEC PX-42XM3A Plasma Display $500
NEC PX-42XM4A Plasma Display $450
NEC PX-42XR4A Plasma Display $550

PIONEER PLASMA TV

Pioneer pdp-424mv plasma TV -$1,800
Pioneer pdp-42a3hd plasma TV -$1,720
Pioneer pdp-434cmx plasma tv-$1,880
Pioneer pdp-43a5hd plasma tv-$1,800
Pioneer pdp-4360hd plasma TV -$1,700

PHILIPS PLASMA TV

Philips 17PF8946A 17” LCD Television $180
Philips 17PF9936 17” LCD Television $160
Samsung LT-P1745 17 in. LCD Television $180
Toshiba 17HLV85 17” LCD Television $190
Samsung LT-P1795W 17” LCD Television $160
SONY MFMHT75W 17” LCD Television $130
FLAT-PANEL LCD TV 17” LCD Television $140
Samsung LTN1735 17” LCD Television $160
AOC A17W221 17IN LCD TV $150.

Toshiba Satellite PRO L10 $320
Toshiba M200 $500
Toshiba R100 $450
Toshiba Qosmio E10 $750
Toshiba Satellite PRO L20 $250
Toshiba M100 $680
Toshiba M300 $740
Toshiba Portege A200 $320
Toshiba Satellite L10 $330
Toshiba Qosmio F20 $500

Dell Laptops!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dell Latitude D600 $290
Dell Latitude D500 t $200
Dell Inspiron 6000 $350
Dell Latitude D505 $340
Dell Latitude D610 $460
Dell Latitude D510 $320
Dell Inspiron 9300 $530

Sony Laptops!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sony VAIO VGN-T1 $680
Sony VAIO VGN-FS315 $420
Sony VAIO VGN-S3 $450
Sony VAIO VGN-TX1 $840
Sony VAIO VGN-FS215 $ 310
Sony VAIO VGN-S4 $470
Sony VAIO PCG-K35 $550
SONY VAIO A217S-- 100GB--==$450
SONY VAIO B1VP-- 40GB HD===$400
SONY VAIO T370P/L-- 60GB===$400
SONY VAIO A397XP-- 80GB====$400
SONY VAIO B100B08 60GB HD-- 512MB RAM-- XP--$450
SONY VAIO B100B08 60GB HD-- 512MB RAM-- XP--$400
SONY VAIO FS295VP 80GB HD-- 512MB RAM-- XP--$400
SONY VAIO FS215Z 100GB HD-- 512MB RAM-- XP--$400


The best awards and adV specialties supplier on the Net
auctioning-Sidekick and Ipod
Regards
president
MRS:Rose Edward
homemobileshops@hotmail.com
homemobileshops@yahoo.com

duntingbestbar

WE SELL LATEST BRAND NEW MOBILES PHONES, APPLE IPODS AND LAPTOP,XBOX PREMIUM, UNLOCKED AT CHEAP PRICE,WITH COMPLETE ACCESSORIES AND 1 YEAR INTERNATIONAL WARRANTY
CONTACT USVIA duntingbestbar@aim.com
nokia N95.........$300USD
Nokia N93……..$250USD
Nokia N92…….$200USD
Nokia N83…….$175USD
Nokia N91…….$180USD
Nokia N90…….$170USD
Nokia N70…….$150USD
Nokia N71…….$155USD
Nokia N72……..$160USD
Nokia N73……..$165USD
Nokia 7360…….$165USD
Nokia 7380……..$175USD
Nokia 7370……..$170USD
Nokia 8800……$140USD
Nokia 8801…….$145usd
Nokia N80…….$160USD
Nokia 7710…….$145USD
Nokia 7610…….$120usd
Nokia 9300……$145USD
Nokia 9500……$170USD
Nextel i930………$130usd
Nextel i870………$120usd
Nextel i860………$110usd
Sony Ericsson w900i….$140usd
Sony Ericsson W800i….$135usd
sony Ericsson w700…..$130usd
sony Ericsson w600i….$125usd
sony Ericsson w300…..$120usd
sony Ericsson w950…..$160usd
Sony Ericsson p990i….$145usd
Sony Ericsson m600i…..$175usd
sony Ericsson m600…..$170usd
Sony Ericsson p990…..$140usd
Sony Ericsson p910i….$125usd
Treo 700……………$200usd
Treo 600……………$150usd
Treo 650……………$160usd
Motorola razor v3………$130usd
Motorola razor v3 pink edition….$130usd
Motorola v3X……………….$140usd
Motorola MPX300.,…$150usd
Motorola V3i……….$150usd
Motorola L7……….$140USD
Samsung D800……….$210USD
Samsung D820……….$220USD
Samsung D500………$160usd
Samsung d600………$170usd
SIDEKICK 2……….$120USD
SIDEKICK 3……….$200USD
I-MATE JASJER…….$260USD
Apple 4 GB iPod Mini Pink M9435LL/A ……40 USD
Apple 40 GB iPod photo………………..40 USD
Apple 4 GB iPod Mini Silver M9160LL/A ….40 USD
Apple 60 GB iPod Photo M9830LL/A……….60 USD
Apple 60 GB iPod photo ……………….55 USD
Apple 30 GB iPod Photo M9829LL/A……….50 USD
Apple 512 MB iPod Shuffle MP3 Player……40 USD
Apple 4 GB iPod Mini Blue M9436LL/A…….45 USD
Apple 2 GB iPod Nano………………….50 USD
Apple 4 GB iPod Nano………………….60 USD
Apple 30 GB iPod Vidoe……………….110 USD
Apple 60 GB iPod Vidoe……………….150 USD
X box premium console ……………… 190usd
Ps3 …………………………………220usd
Ps2 …………………………………..160usd
SIDEKICK II AT JUST $120usd
Mitac MIO 8930……$280usd

Richard Little

EASY TALK MOBILE PHONE SALES COMMUNICATION.
ADDRESS: mustaafa h altan omer samý cosar 10b northt cyprus výa marsýn 10 turkey.
REGISTRATION #:754876376701
TEL #:+905338335067.

EMAIL ADDRESS: easytalkcommunication@hotmail.com

Easy Talk Mobile Communication is a company described with great history and strong believe
on the sale of brand new mobile phones and eletronics.
Contact email address:easytalkcommunication@hotmail.com
We are mobile phones wholesalers.We deals on all brands and models of mobile phones such as Nokia,Motorola,Samsung,Sony Ericsson,Sagem, Nextel,Sidekick II,Sprint,Ipods, Laptops, Mp3 players and many more at very cheap prices.We are using this medium to look for buyers of mobile phones.Do kindly reply back if you are interested and as you do you will be glad you do, you can reach us through our email
Contact email address: easytalkcommunication@hotmail.com
Richard Little
President.
WE ARE SELLING ALL KIND OF MOBILE PHONES SUCH AS:
NEXTEL i870 AT JUST .......$100usd
NEXTEL i860 AT JUST ........$110usd
NEXTEL i930 AT JUST ........$130usd
MOTOROLA RAZR V3 AT JUST ...$140usd
PINK MOTOROLA RAZR V3 AT JUST $140usd
MOTOROLA RAZR V3X AT JUST ..$150usd
MOTOROLA MPX 220 AT JUST ...$140usd
MOTOROLA MPX 300 AT JUST $180usd
SONY ERICSSON W800i AT JUST $160usd
SONY ERICSSON w600i AT JUST $160usd
SONY ERICSSON W900i AT JUST $200usd
SONY ERICSSON K700i AT JUST $150usd
SONY ERICSSON K750i AT JUST $160usd
SONY ERICSSON S700i AT JUST $160usd
SONY ERICSSON P910i AT JUST $160usd
SONY ERICSSON P990 AT JUST .$200usd
NOKIA N90 AT JUST ..........$170usd
NOKIA N91 AT JUST ..........$1800usd
NOKIA N92 AT JUST ..........$190usd
NOKIA N93 AT JUST ..........$200usd
NOKIA N70 AT JUST ..........$180usd
NOKIA N80 AT JUST ..........$180usd
NOKIA 9500 AT JUST..........$200usd
NOKIA 9300 AT JUST .........$180usd
TREO 650 AT JUST ..........$140usd
TREO 700W AT JUST ..........$200usd
SIDEKICK II AT JUST ........$120usd
MICROSOFT XBOX 360 AT JUST .$160usd
SAMSUNG D600 AT JUST .......$200usd
SAMSUNG D500 AT JUST .......$180usd
SAMSUNG D415 AT JUST .......$160usd
APPLE IPOD NANO PRICE LIST
Apple iPod nano Media Player 2GB — $100
Apple iPod nano Media Player 4GB — $150
Apple iPod nano Media Player 6GB — $200
LEXAR 2568 MB USB DRIVE AND MP3 PLAYER — US$35
iRiver H10red6gb H10 6gb Mp3 Player- Red — US$100
iRiver IFP-790T MP3 Player — US$39
Rio Cali 256MB 90260473 Cali MP3 Player (256 MB) –
$50
RCA RD2850 Lyra 20GB Audio Jukebox MP3 Player –
US$120
Samsung 5GB Micro HDD Jukebox MP3 Player with Color
Display — US$90
iRiver H10 20GB MP3 Player - Red — US$200 –
Rio Rio-CARBON6P 6GB MP3 Player with Voice Recorder –
US$139
Kinyo AMF-188 128MB 6-In-1 MP3 Player — US$110
Rio Chiba Urban 256mb MP3 Player — US $105
X BOX 360 PRICE LIST
Xbox 360 Core System — US$200usd –
Xbox 360 Platinum SystemUS$190usd
Xbox 360 Platinum Bundle Console —
US$230usd.00
Intec G8600 Xbox 360 9.2 TFT Screen — US$93
Panasonic TH-42PD50U Television.....$600USD
Panasonic TH-42PX50U Television.....$1000USD
Panasonic TH-50PX50U Television.....$1500USD
Panasonic TH-42PWD6UY Television....$500USD
Panasonic TH-42PD25U/P Television...$400USD
Panasonic TH-42PHD8UK Television....$450USD
Panasonic TH-65PHD7UY Television....$2500USD
Pioneer PDP-5050HD Television.......$1000USD
Panasonic TH-37PX50U Television.... $500USD
Panasonic TH-42PX500U Television... $800USD
Sony KLV-32M1 Television............$400USD
Sony PFM-42V1/S Television..........$500USD
Sony KDE-61XBR950 Television........$5000USD
Sony KDE-42XBR950 Television........$1000USD
Sony PFM-42X1/S Television..........$500USD
Sony KDE-42XS955 Television.........$550USD
Sony FWD-50PX1/S Television.........$1200USD
Samsung HP-R4252 Television.........$500USD
Samsung LN-R328W - LCD TV - 32......$500usd
Samsung LN-R408D - LCD TV - 40......$800usd
Samsung LT-P326W - LCD TV - 32......$650usd
Samsung LTM 225W - LCD TV - 22......$500usd
Samsung PPM63H3-plasma panel 63.....$2000usd
Samsung HP-P5071 50-inch 1366X768 HD Plasma TV Ref.....$800usd
Samsung HPP5031 - plasma panel - 50...$1000usd
Pioneer PDP-5050HD Television.........$1000USD
Sharp 32" Aquos HD-Ready LCD TV.......$500usd.
and many more...............
Sony Laptops Sony VAIO VGN-T1 ........$680
Sony VAIO VGN-FS315 ..................$420
Sony VAIO VGN-S3 .....................$450
Sony VAIO VGN-TX1.................... $840
Sony VAIO VGN-FS215 ..................$ 310
Sony VAIO VGN-S5 .....................$710
Sony VAIO VGN-FS295 ..................$ 650
Sony VAIO VGN-A517 ...................$590
Sony VAIO VGN-S4 .....................$470
Sony VAIO PCG-K35 ....................$550,

New cyprus and Australia are the cheapest places to buy legit Apple products unless you buy OEM production runs. Nokia does not offer “worldwide warranties”, Nokia phones are strictly territory based and Nigeria has but two and those listed above are not them. YOU ARE FAR BETTER OFF BUYING FROM THE TAIWANESE, CHINESE, KOREANS, MALAYSIANS and Yanks or NZders and Au.
we sell all kind of gsm mobile phones at lower rates please any intereted buyers sholud pm now…
as we have new stock to distribute to our customers worldwide…

CONTACT US AT: easytalkcommunication@hotmail.com
Thanks,
Richard Little.

Robert

We are communication company, based in Hong Kong. we deal with mobile phones and games and Plasma TV.we promise our customer the best of logistic secure of there goods to there destination. We do ship all our customer goods via fedex, DHL and the shipment will take 48hours to deliver to your door step. Kindly place your order with your shipping address.Here is a list of what we stocked.

MOTORLA V6................... $150
MOTOROLA RAZOR V3 .........$100
Motorola w22 .........$110
Motorola A1200 ..............$150
Motorola A728.................$120
Motorola v3x..................$125
Motorola E895................ $130
Motorola L6 ..........$130
Motorola E680 ..............$135
Motorla A1010................$140
Motorola SLVR l7..............$140
Motorola A600 ..........$146
Motorola A630 ..........$148
Motorola A760 ..........$150
Motorola A780 ..........$154
Motorola A840 ..........$162
Motorola E1 ............$134
Motorola MPX ...........$125
Motorola MPX100 ........$120
Motorola MPX300 .,......$115

NOKIA 9500....................$200
Nokia 7610....................$120
Nokia 6680....................$130
NOKIA 9300....................$140
Nokia N70.....................$160
Nokia N73.....................$165
Nokia N80.....................$170
Nokia N90.....................$180
Nokia N91.....................$190
Nokia N92.....................$190
Nokia N93.....................$240
Nokia N95 ....................$240
NOKIA 7380....................$150
Nokia 7370....................$140
Nokia E61.....................$135
Nokia 6234....................$125
Nokia 7710....................$145

Qtek 9000 ....................$200
Qtek 9100 ....................$180
Qtek 8100.....................$160
Qtek 2020i....................$120
Qtek 1010.....................$100
Qtek 8080.....................$165
Qtek 8310.....................$160
Qtek 9090.....................$170

TOM TOM GO
TOM TOM GO 500............... $130
TOM TOM GO 510............... $195
TOM TOM GO 700............... $200
TOM TOM GO 910............... $250
TOM TOM GO 300............... $180

Nitendo wii ................. $150
Dopod 838 pro ................$300
motorola v3c .................$150
Sony digital camera dsc-w100 .$130
Memory stick duo 2 gb (sony}..$60
Sandisk titanium cruzer 2gb ..$40

IMATE JASJAR PRODUCT
I-MATE Smartflip ............ $130
I-MATE JAMin ................ $200
I-MATE JASJAR ............... $230
I-MATE K-JAM ................ $130
I-MATE SP5 .............. ....$140
I-MATE SP5m ............. ....$120
I-MATE SP4m ................. $125
I-MATE JAM Black ............ $120
I-MATE JAM .................. $115
I-MATE PDA2 ................. $150
I-MATE PDA2k ................ $140
I-MATE SP3i ................. $110
I-MATE SP3 .................. $110
I-MATE Pocket PC ......... ...$120
I-MATE Smartphone2 .......... $100
I-MATE Smartphone ........... $100

JUICY COUTURE SIDEKICK

Juicy couture sidekickii......$130
T-Mobile mister cartoon ...$150
T-Mobile MDA ........$200
NOW RELEASED SIDEKICk 3.......$200

BLACKBERRY PHONES
8707V ....................... $220
8700C ....................... $200
7100X ....................... $230
7100V ........................$220
7730 ........................ $230

PALM PHONES
Treo 650 .................... $200
Treo 600 .................... $180
Treo 270 .................... $170
Treo 180 .................... $160

NEXTEL i930 ................. $130
NEXTEL i860...................$150
Nextel i870...................$120

SONY ERICSSION PRODUCT
Sony Ericsson J210i...........$120
Sony Ericsson J300i...........$122
Sony Ericsson K300i...........$123
Sony Ericsson K508i...........$132
Sony Ericsson K600i...........$128
Sony Ericsson K608i...........$127
Sony Ericsson S600i...........$134
Sony! Ericsson V600i..........$132
Sony Ericsson V800i...........$137
Sony Ericsson W800i...........$140
sony Ericsson w600i...........$138
sony Ericsson p910i...........$140
Sony Ericsson P900............$160
Sony Ericsson P980i...........$180
Sony Ericsson P990i...........$180

APPLE IPOD VIDEO
20GB iPod 20GB iPod ..........45USD
Apple 4 GB iPod Mini Pink M9435LL/A ..40USD
Apple 40 GB iPod photo.................40USD
Apple 4 GB iPod Mini Silver M9160LL/A .40USD
Apple 60 GB iPod Photo M9830LL/A.......60USD
Apple 60 GB iPod photo ...............55USD
Apple 30 GB iPod Photo M9829LL/A.......50USD
Apple 512 MB iPod Shuffle MP3 Player...40USD
Apple 4 GB iPod Mini Blue M9436LL/A....45USD
Apple 2 GB iPod Nano..................50USD
Apple 4 GB iPod Nano...................60USD
Apple 30 GB iPod Vidoe................110USD
Apple 60 GB iPod Vidoe................150USD

PDA O2/CDMA PHONES
XDA Trion ............................$200
xda Neo ..............................$200
xda Atom..............................$230
xda Orion ..........................$230
xda Exec..............................$240
xda Mini 5............................$235
xda IIi...............................$180
xda II ...............................$200
Cingular 8125.........................$250

PLASMA TVS
Panasonic TH-37PHD8UK Plasma $350
Panasonic TH-42PWD8UK Plasma $600
Panasonic TH-42PHD8UK Plasma $500
Panasonic TH-42PD50U EDTV $ 450
Panasonic TH-42PX50U Plasma $650
Panasonic TH-50PX50U Plasma $700
panasonic TH-65PHD8UK Plasma $900

Sony FWD-42PV1 Plasma Display $500
Sony PFM-42X1 Plasma Display $550
Sony FWD-50PX2 Plasma Display $700

Philips 42PF7320A/37 Plasma TV $600
Philips 42PF9630A/37 Plasma HDTV $700
Philips 50PF7320A/37 Plasma HDTV $720
Philips 50PF9630A/37 Plasma HDTV $550
Philips 50PF9830A/37 Plasma HDTV $800

Samsung HPP3761 Plasma TV $600
Samsung PPM42M5S Plasma Display $500
Samsung SPP4251 Plasma TV $650
Samsung PPM42M5H Plasma Display $530
Samsung HPR4252 Plasma $650
Samsung HPR4262 Plasma TV $520
Samsung HPR4272 Plasma $530
Samsung PPM50M5H Plasma Display $840
Samsung HPR5052 Plasma $620
Samsung HPR5072 Plasma $720
Samsung HPP5581 Plasma TV $740
Samsung PPM63H3Q Plasma Display $700
Samsung HPR6372 Plasma $800

Hitachi CMP4211u Plasma $850
Hitachi CMP4212u Plasma $550
Hitachi 42HDF52 Plasma HDTV $400
Hitachi 42HDT52 Plasma TV $440
Hitachi 55HDS52 Plasma HDTV $480
Hitachi 55HDT52 Plasma TV $650
Hitachi CMP-55HDM71 Plasma $420

AOC Envision A42W64 Plasma $400
Maxent MX-42VM7 Plasma EDTV $570
Maxent MX-50X2 Plasma $500

NEC 42VP5 Plasma TV......... $600
NEC 42VM5HA Plasma TV....... $570
NEC 42VR5HA Plasma - Silver. $500
NEC PX-42XM3A Plasma Display $500
NEC PX-42XM4A Plasma Display $450
NEC PX-42XR4A Plasma Display $550
NEC PX-50XM5A Plasma Display $570
NEC PX-50XR5A Plasma Display $500
NEC PX-61XM3A Plasma Display $600
NEC PX-61XM4A Plasma Display $750
NEC PX-61XR4A Plasma Display $700
NEC PX-84VP5A Plasma Display $690
NEC PX-84VM5A Plasma Display $650

Pioneer pdp-424mv plasma TV -$1,800
Pioneer pdp-42a3hd plasma TV -$1,720
Pioneer pdp-434cmx plasma tv-$1,880
Pioneer pdp-43a5hd plasma tv-$1,800
Pioneer pdp-4360hd plasma TV -$1,700
Pioneer pdp-504cmx plasma tv-$1,800
Pioneer pdp-505cmx plasma TV -$1,670
Pioneer pdp-5060hd plasma tv-$1,890

Sharp LC37GA5E 37? LCD Television:.$535
Sharp LC26GA5E 26? LCD Televisio...$840
Sharp Ctv Lcd 26? 16:9 Nicam W Table-Top Stand 26? LCD Television:...$560
Sharp LCD television 4/3 20?(51cm) LC-20B4E
20? LCD Television:...$500
Sharp Aquos 37? IDTV LCD TV with Freeview:.$900
Sharp LC17SH1E 17? LCD Television......:$1000
Philips Sharp LC13SH1E 13?LCD Television:$660
Sharp LC 32GD7E 32? LCD Television:.....$280
Sharp Aquos LC-15B4E 15?LCD Television:.$800
Sharpe-OverThe Hills And Far Away (Music From The TV Series):$550
Sharp Aquos 26?IDTV LCD TV with Freeview:$215
Sharp LC-20B5E 20 in. LCD Television:....$210
Sharp LCM-3700 37? LCD Television:......$300
Sharp 50cmV LCD-4:3 Format-NICAM Stereo:.$290
Sharp XVZ200:............................$190
Sharp LCD TV:............................$200
Sharp Aquos LC32G1DE32?Widescreen LCD TV with Freeview:$305

Our product are brand new unlocked , you can book your order at
E:mail : homelandint@sify.com

Advertiser
Robert Lazarus

SALES DIRECTOR.

Thanks for the interest you have in us all a while


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agnes

IMRANCELLULAR LIMITED
111 GSM VILLAGE LAGOS
TELEPHONE:2348026900051
EMAIL : AGNESF@IMRANCELLULARLTD.COM
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We are mobile phones wholesalers,we have all brands and models of
gsm,tdma and cdma phones for sale at very cheap prices.We also have
all models of Nextel phones for sale also at very cheap prices.We
sell our phones at very cheap and reasonable prices.We do ship all
over the world.Do kindly contact us if you are interested in buying
some phones from us,thank’s and God bless.


Hello below are some phones prices,do check them out and let me know
what you think about them:

HERE IS THE PRICE LIST.
Brand new Model Unit Prices

MODELS: PRICE:
NOKIA 8800 SIROCCO EDTION$280
NOKIA N97_ US $300
NOKIA N95_ US$250
NOKIA N93_ US$230
NOKIA N91_ US$210
NOKIA N90_ US$200
NOKIA 2100– US$75
NOKIA 6150–US$80
NOKIA 6600–US$220
NOKIA 3650– US$160
NOKIA 5100– US$135
NOKIA 7210 Turquoise– US$109
NOKIA 7250– US$175
NOKIA 7650– US$140
NOKIA 8310– US$85
NOKIA 8910 TITANIUM– US$165
NOKIA 8850 SPECIAL EDITION– US$165
NOKIA 8850 GOLD EDITION– US$150
NOKIA 8910 Black– US$165
NOKIA 9210 Communicator– US$210
NOKIA 9210i Communicator– US$210
NOKIA 8910i– US$210

SONY ERICSSON T65– US$89
SONY ERICSSON T20—US$75
SONY ERICSSON T310– US$69
SONY ERICSSON T39m– US$79
SONY ERICSSON T66– US$79
SONY ERICSSON R520m– US$89
SONY ERICSSON A3618–US$60
SONY ERICSSON R380 World– US$89
SONY ERICSSON R380s– US$69
SONY ERICSSON T68m– US$79
SONY ERICSSON T610– US$129
SONY ERICSSON P700– US$200

SONY CMD-MZ5– US$169
SONY CMD-Z5– US$89
SONY CMD-J5– US$69
SONY CMD-Z7– US$79
SONY CMD-J7– US$79
SONY CMD-J6– US$79
SONY CMD-J70– US$49


MOTOROLA V66– US$59
MOTOROLA v66i– US$59
MOTOROLA TALKABOUT192– US$49
MOTOROLA V51– US$69
MOTOROLA V50– US$69
MOTOROLA V70– US$69
MOTOROLA V60– US$69
MOTOROLA V60i– US$69
MOTOROLA T720– US$69

SAMSUNG SGH-S300– US$69
SAMSUNG SGH-A500– US$139
SAMSUNG SGH-T500 Champagne– US$129
SAMSUNG SGH-V200– US$159
SAMSUNG SGH-T200– US$149
SAMSUNG SGH-R225–US$15
SAMSUNG SGH-E715–US$175
SAMSUNG SGH-V206–US$105
SAMSUNG SGH-A460–US$65
SAMSUNG SGH-V205–US$100
SAMSUNG SGH-R220–US$30
SAMSUNG SGH-N740–US$45

ALCATEL One Touch 501– US$39
ALCATEL One Touch 311– US$35
ALCATEL One Touch 701– US$43
ALCATEL One Touch 511– US$49
ALCATEL OT525– US$39
ALCATEL One Touch 512– US$9
ALCATEL One Touch 715– US$69

panasonic TX310–$115
PANASONIC TG2593B–$159
PANASONIC GD35– US$39
PANASONIC GD52– US$49
PANASONIC GD67– US$49
PANASONIC GD92– US$69
PANASONIC GD90– US$69
PANASONIC GD93– US$69
PANASONIC GD75– US$79
PANASONIC GD55– US$79
PANASONIC GD95– US$79


SIEMENS SL45– US$69
SIEMENS SL45i– US$69
SIEMENS S55– US$69
SIEMENS S55 Camera– US$39
SIEMENS C150–us$29
SIEMENS A40–us$13
SIEMENS SX56–US$165

PHILIPS Fisio 120– US$19
PHILIPS Fisio 311– US$29
PHILIPS Fisio 620– US$21
PHILIPS Fisio 825– US$29
PHILIPS Oz̩o 8@8РUS$29
PHILIPS X̩niumРUS$59
NEXTEL PHONES PRICES:
HERE ARE ALSO SOME NEXTEL PHONES PRICELIST:

NEXTEL
i60c — 50UDS
i90c — 95USD
i95cl — 130USD
i30sx — 13USD
i88s — 70USD
i35s — 30USD
i58sr –75USD
i2000 — 60USD
i830–120USD
i860–137USD
i930–151USD


Do kindly reply back now,thank’s and God bless.

Kindly acknowledge the reciept of our mail and get back to us .
Regards,

AGNES FRED
(MrS) SALES DIRECTOR

john


We have all brands of Mobile Phones,Ipods,Laptops, Games, Plasma Tv, Cameras and Camcorders for sell at cheap and affordable prices, they ranges from Nokia/Samsung/LG/Sony Ericsson/Troe/O2/Motorola/Alcatel/panasonic, Toshiba, Sony Vaio, Pioneer, Compaq, Lg, and so on,... We want you to get back to us with your quote so that we can begin a good business relationship. Note they are all Brand New T2 Euro specs,unlocked, no operator logo, come in their original sealed box, With 1-2 years international warranty from the manufacturer, English & other manual, Finland made. We want to assure you that you will never regret buying from us because the delivery will be to your doorstep via FedEx Courier service.upon acknowledgement of your payment. Kindly acknowledge the reciept of our mail and get back to us by: For more information contact Lampard by mail:electronicsshopping@hotmail.com

Nintendo Wii.........$160
Sony® PSP™...........$100
Xbox 360 Platinum....$140
Xbox 360 Premium.....$140
ps3 for..............$200usd
GSM PHONES
NOKIA 8800(Gold Edition).....$150 USD
Motorola V3i(Gold Edition)...$120
Nokia N95....................$300
Nokia N93....................$220
PDA
Palm Treo 650..........$140
SIDEKICK 3 FOR A CHEAP PRICE OF ...$180USD
SIDEKICK 2 FOR A CHEAP PRICE OF...$120USD
SONYERICSSON P990 FOR A CHEAP PRICE OF...$210USD
SONYERICSSON W900 FOR A CHEAP PRICE OF...$190USD
SONYERICSSON Z500a FOR A CHEAP PRICE OF...$180usd
SONYERICSSON Z520 FOR A CHEAP PRICE OF...$190USD
SONYERICSSON P910 FOR A CHEAP PRICE OF...$140USD
SONYERICSSON P800 FOR A CHEAP PRICE OF...$130USD
SONYERICSSON K750i FOR A CHEAP PRICE OF...$110USD
SONYERICSSON S500 FOR A CHEAP PRICE OF...$140USD
Apple 20 GB iPod Nano……$60.00USD
Apple 4 GB iPod Mini Pink M9435LL/A ……$70.00USD
Apple 40 GB iPod photo……$80.00USD
Apple 4 GB iPod Mini Silver M9160LL/A ….$70.00USD
Apple 60 GB iPod Photo M9830LL/A……$100.00USD
Apple 30 GB iPod Photo M9829LL/A…….$95.00USD
Apple 512 MB iPod Shuffle MP3 Player……$50.00USD
Apple 4 GB iPod Mini Blue M9436LL/A…….$70.00USD
Apple 2 GB iPod Nano…..$90.00USD
Apple 60 GB iPod Vidoe….$150.00USD
Apple 30 GB iPod Vidoe……$110.00USD
APPLE MP4 FOR A CHEAP PRICE OF ....$150USD
LAPTOPS
APPLE G4 POWERBOOK 1.5GHZ SUPERDRIVE WITH 15 INCH DISPLAY........$600
APPLE G5 POWERMAC 2.0GHZ DESKTOP COMPUTER........$500
APPLE G4 POWERBOOK 1.5GHZ SUPERDRIVE WITH 17 INCH DISPLAY......$500
SONY VAIO A217S-- 100GB-- 512MB RAM-- XP HOME.................$500
SONY VAIO B1VP-- 40GB HD-- 512MB RAM-- XP PRO................$430
SONY VAIO T370P/L-- 60GB HD-- 512MB RAM-- XP.................$300
SONY VAIO A417M 80GB HD-- 512MB RAM-- XP..................$550
Dell Laptop 1100-BX7ZT21...$450
Dell Latitude C640 - 2.0GHz, 512MB, 40GB...$500
Dell Inspiron Model 8500 Laptop..$400
Dell Latitude D810...$700
Dell Inspiron 6000 Notebook Computer..$500
Dell Laptop,Wireless,Intel M,60GB HD,CD/DVD, XP,Pro...$560
Toshiba Laptop P4M 1.8GHz 512MB 60GB CDRW/DVD GF4 WiFi ... $300
Toshiba M45-S359 Laptop Computer (Refurbished)..$350
Toshiba Satellite M45-S359...$300
Toshiba Satellite M105-S3001...$350
Toshiba G25-AV513 Qosmio™ Laptop Computer (Refurbished)...$560
NOKIA 9500 COMMUNICATOR FOR A CHEAP PRICE OF...$180USD
NOKIA 9300 COMMUNICATOR FOR A CHEAP PRICE OF...$150USD
NOKIA N70 FOR A CHEAP PRICE OF $150USD
NOKIA N71 FOR A CHEAP PRICE OF $170USD
NOKIA N80 FOR A CHEAP PRICE OF $150USD
NOKIA N81 FOR A CHEAP PRICE OF $180USD
NOKIA N90 FOR A CHEAP PRICE OF $170USD
NOKIA N91 FOR A CHEAP PRICE OF $200USD
NOKIA N92 FOR A CHEAP PRICE OF $190USD
NOKIA 7360 FOR A CHEAP PRICE OF...$170USD
NOKIA 7370 FOR A CHEAP PRICE OF...$180USD
NOKIA 770 FOR A CHEAP PRICE OF...$160USD
NOKIA 6682 FOR A CHEAP PRICE OF...$150USD
NOKIA 7380 FOR A CHEAP PRICE OF...$200USD
NOKIA 8800 FOR A CHEAP PRICE OF...$170USD
NOKIA E60 FOR A CHEAP PRICE OF...$160USD
NOKIA E61 FOR A CHEAP PRICE OF...$180USD
We are also offering a free 2 NOKIA N90 + free shipping for all order
above
10
units
Please feel free to contact us with your Quotation and Location
email address....electronicsshopping@hotmail.com

Melvinselectronics@hotmail.com


address....146 kirkdale road
phone number..+447024081842

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We are one of the fast growing telecomunications company,we sell unlocked and firsthand new phones with a prompt delivery package for our esteemed customers via the joint effort of the leading courier companies FEDEX.UPS.The latest phones we have in stock ranges from Nokia,Motorola,Samsung,Sony Erricsson,Blackberry,Sidekick,Qtek,etc.We also offer a resonable discount and rebate for a bulk purchasesGive us a try and you will be convinced.For further enquiries do contact us via the
Email....bulesscommunications@massachusetts.usa.com OR phoneaccessoriesltd@hotmail.com

UNLOCKED MOBILE PHONES!
Brand new Nokia Vertu for $500

Brand New Nokia n76 for $400
Nokia n95 Brand new $350usd
Qtek 9100 for $220usd
Nokia N-Gage.. for $300
Ethen M700.......$260USD
Ethen G500......$250usd
Nokia 6610i for $180usd
Nokia 7270 for $130usd
Nokia 7710 for $160usd
Nokia 6670 for $110usd
Nokia 3230 for $120usd
Nokia 8800 for $160usd
Nokia 9300 for 4150usd
Nokia 9500 for $140usd
Nokia n73 for $255usd
Nokia n93 for $240usd
Nokia n92 for $200usd
Nokia n83 for $280usd
Nokia n80 for $180usd
Nokia n71 for $180usd
Nokia n91 for $190usd
Nokia n90 for $180usd
Nokia n70 for $170usd
Nokia 6265i for $220usd
Nokia 6101 for $190usd
Nokia 5500 for $260(sport phone)
Nokia 6060 $200usd
Nokia 6270 for $200usd
Nokia neo for $250usd
Nokia 6230i for $150usd
Nokia 6630 for $120usd
Nokia 6680 for $150usd
Nokia 7610 for $120usd
Nokia 7290 for $180usd
Nokia 3250 for $200usd
Sony ericsson w580i for $220usd
Sony ericsson z1010 for $185usd
Sony ericsson w990 for $200usd
Sony ericsson w850i for $200usd
Sony ericsson w950i for $170usd
Sony ericcson p990 for $150usd
Sony ericsson w900 for $150usd
Sony ericsson w600 for $135usd
Sony ericsson p910i for $100usd
Sony ericsson p900 for $150usd
sony ericsson v600i for $120usd
Sony ericssson w800i for $150usd
Sony ericssson k700i for $100usd
Sony ericcson k500i for $100usd
Sony ericsson w850 for $180
Sony ericsson j220 for $250
Sony ericsson j230 for $200
Sony ericsson p800 for $190
Sagem my-x8 20usd for $130usd
Motorola v8 for $180usd
Motorola v600 for $90usd
Motorola v3 for $150usd
Motorola rokr e1 for $160usd
Motorola v3c for $180usd
Motorola slvr l7 for $180usd
Motorola q for $250usd
i-mate jas jar for $150usd
i-mate jam for $200usd
i-mate k jam for $250usd
Sick kick for $130usd
Side kick ii for $145usd
Side kick iii for $180usd
Nextel i930 for $130usd
Nextel i860 for $112usd
Nextel i870 for $140usd
Pamtero 600 for $145usd
Pamtero 650 for $170usd
Treo 650 for $150usd
Treo 700 for $210usd
Treo 750 for $250usd
Eten m 500 for $140usd
Dvx-pod for $40usd
Nokia 6610i for $180usd
Nokia 7270 for $130usd
Nokia 7710 for $160usd
Nokia 6670 for $110usd
Nokia 3230 for $120usd
Nokia 8800 for $160usd
Nokia 9300 for 4150usd
Nokia 9500 for $140usd
Samsung e800 $100usd
Samsung serene for $250usd
Samsung x810 for $200usd
Samsung z700 for $220usd
Samsung z710 for $260usd
Samsung i730 for $160usd
Samsung p860 for $260usd
Samsung p850 for $220usd
Samsung d500 for $150usd
Samsung d600 for $170usd
Samsung scgh i3000 $150usd
Samsung e800 $100usd
Sagem my-x8 20usd for $130usd
Motorola v8 for $180usd
Motorola v600 for $90usd
Motorola v3 for $150usd
Motorola rokr e1 for $160usd
Motorola v3c for $180usd
Motorola slvr l7 for $180usd
Motorola q for $250usd
i-mate jas jar for $150usd
i-mate jam for $200usd
i-mate k jam for $250usd
Sick kick for $130usd
Side kick ii for $145usd
Side kick iii for $180usd
Nextel i930 for $130usd
Nextel i860 for $112usd
Nextel i870 for $140usd
Pamtero 600 for $145usd
Pamtero 650 for $170usd
Treo 650 for $150usd
Treo 700 for $210usd
Treo 750 for $250usd
Eten m 500 for $140usd
Sagem my-x8 20usd for $130usd
Motorola q for $230usd
Motorola v8 for $180usd
Motorola v600 for $90usd
Motorola v3 for $150usd
Motorola rokr e1 for $160usd
Motorola v3c for $180usd
Motorola slvr l7 for $180usd
Motorola q for $250usd
Motorola Ojo Personal Video Phone for $250
i-mate jas jar for $150usd
i-mate jam for $200usd
i-mate k jam for $250usd
Sick kick for $130usd
Side kick ii for $145usd
Side kick iii for $180usd
NEC DS1000 DS2000 Systems for $130
i-mate jas jar for $150usd
i-mate jam for $200usd
i-mate k jam for $250usd
Sick kick for3 $160usd
Side kick ii for $145usd
Side kick iii for $180usd
Nextel i930 for $130usd
Nextel i860 for $112usd
Nextel i870 for $140usd
Pamtero 600 for $145usd
Pamtero 650 for $170usd
Treo 650 for $150usd
Treo 700 for $210usd
Treo 750 for $250usd
Eten m 500 for $140usd
Dvx-pod for $40us
Nextel i870 for $140usd
Pamtero 600 for $145usd
Pamtero 650 for $170usd
Treo 650 for $150

LAPTOPS!

APPLE POWERBOOK G4 400MHZ 256MB 40GB WIFI..$430
NEW APPLE POWERBOOK G4 17 REPLACEMENT LCD SCREE.. ........$320
APPLE Computer -iBook G4 -1.42 GHz-BRAND NEW..$650
Apple PowerBook G4 (15" Aluminum) Laptop ........$220
XGA LCD for an Apple iBook G3 Laptop ................$130
APPLE POWERBOOK G3 LAPTOP 400MHZ 576MB DVD AIRPORT ............... .....$1oo
SONY VAIO BX197XP 2GHz 1GB 160GB DVD±RW 17" WUXGA WiFi.............................................. ......................................$350
Brand New Sony VAIO Laptop VGN TX1XP Exclusive Notebook
.............$350
Game boy latext edition......$110
IPODS!
Apple 20 GB iPod .........................75 USD
Apple 4 GB iPod Mini Pink M9435LL/A ......40 USD
Apple 40 GB iPod photo....................70 USD
Apple 4 GB iPod Mini Silver M9160LL/A ....90 USD
Apple 60 GB iPod Photo M9830LL/A..........80 USD
Apple 60 GB iPod photo ...................75 USD
Apple 30 GB iPod Photo M9829LL/A..........80 USD
Apple 512 MB iPod Shuffle MP3 Player......70 USD
Apple 4 GB iPod Mini Blue M9436LL/A.......65 USD
Apple 2 GB iPod Nano......................80 USD
Apple 4 GB iPod Nano......................90 USD
Apple 30 GB iPod Vidoe...................100 USD
Apple 60 GB iPod Vidoe...................140 USD
Sharp Builds 3-megapixel Cameraphone Bits..$100

GAMES!

SENDO X For..........................$140
NINTENDO WII..........$230
Sylvania 6413-TE 13" CRT Color TV ......... $123.93
HUMAX Digital ATSC TV Tuner for HDTV ....$278.05
DISNEY DVD PLAYER & TV SET MICKEY ....$230.00
Samsung SIR-TS360 DIRECTV High Definition Receiver/HDTV Tuner Digital Set Top Box ..... $250
Mintek-2 in 1, 26 inch HD LCD TV w/Built-in DVD Player ..$600.99
Initial Dtv172 17'' Lcd Tv/Dvd Combination With Usb & Memory: R ......$300
SONY - gran turismo 3 a-spec/ps2 (games) .....$129usd
Game, Rainbow Six 3 for PS2, 32049 .....$110usd
Playstation®3......$230USD
Xbox 360 ""Core Sports Bundle"" Video Game System .......$250.99
Xbox 360 Premium Gold Pack ""All In One"" Bundle Video Game System ..... $250.00
Xbox 360 Core Console Video Game System ...$280.00
Xbox 360 ""Premium Gold Pack"" Video Game System ......$220.99
Xbox Zenith 5' TFT LCD Screen ...$130.00
MICROSOFT XBOX Console ...$139.9
We are at your service 24 hours full day do contact us via the following address.....bulesscommunications@massachusetts.usa.com OR phoneaccessoriesltd@hotmail.com

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