I checked out a sociology anthology from the library, Conflict, Order & Action, because the back-to-back Weber and Marx selections looked handy-dandy for purposes of my philosophy and sci-fi film needs. Weber on "Science and the Disenchantment of the World"; Marx on "Alienated Labour". The Weber is going to work on a whole bunch of stuff, and I won't even insult your intelligence by connecting the dots. The real question is how far I can push the pun on 'alien', in discussing Ridley Scott's classic film, without getting the giggles. Ahem:
"The worker puts his life into the object; then it no longer belongs to him but to the object. The greater this activity, the poorer is the worker. What the product of his work is, he is not. The greater this product is, the smaller he is himself. The externalization of the worker in his product means not only that his work becomes an object, an external existence, but also that it exists outside him, independently, alien, an autonomous power, opposed to him. The life he has given the object confronts him as hostile and alien."
And then I notice that later in the volume there is an essay with the singularly inauspicious title: "'Voyage through the multiverse': Contested Canadian Identities", by some Wolcott guy.
The title turns out to be from a Dream Warriors rap. Ahem:
"Here, I want to look at the ways in which Canadian rap and dub poetry make and reconfigure the boundaries of Canada and Canadianness - those contested spaces that often lose their intelligibility outside of state managerial apparatus. But I am interested in how both dub poetry and rap music are often positioned as not constituting "Canadianness" given how rap and dub poetry disrupt and contest the category "Canadian." I am also interested in how state administrative practices aid in positioning blackness as both part of and outside of the state's various forms of management and containment. Blackness is then understood as having a diploctical relation to nation in its resistance and complicity; and its performances are also regarded as something otherwise."
Diploctical, eh? Well, I'm gonna be winning any 'nigritude utramarine' prizes for that starting next week.
Sigh. When I read stuff as stilted and academically mannered as this, it makes me feel good to be an analytic philosopher. (Well, less bad anyway.) Like I'm keepin it real, refusing to allow my presentation of obvious - or, alternatively, obviously false - ideas to be unnecessarily cramped by "a certain quality of conformist excellence within the heuristic constraints of what is considered appropriate disciplinarity" (to quote Timothy Burke from some comment box or other.) Except this is more like conformist mediocrity. But still. It was sort of funny.
There oughta be a cultural studies drinking game. I think the word 'contested' alone would be enough to have everyone feeling good at the end of many a seminar.
I like the idea that the Canadian border - the longest unguarded border in the world - is being 'contested' by rap and dub. Such a Musiko-grenzalogisch 'event' hasn't been heard tell of since the whole Oregon territory piano-tuning dispute of 1818: A440 or Fight! (Historians should feel free to correct me by citing equally catastrophic recent events. I mean there has been Brian Adams and stuff since.)
I wince when I read that excerpt. Because I think I probably wrote some paragraphs like that in grad school and maybe even after, and I don't honestly think it was because I was a dumb guy or a bad writer at that point. It really is about how hermetically sealed off the norms of academic writing and academic reward systems can be.
It's also, I think, about a kind of laziness that I personally trace all the way back to Said's Orientalism and to the way that Foucault's ideas about "discourse" got glossed into working practice in the humanities, allowing many scholars to ostentibly write about types of cultural work or about social practices but to actually be writing only about how others have written about those things, and then from there, to write about how others have written about others who have written about those things, and so on. All of which can be done without leaving the library.
Posted by: Timothy Burke | August 05, 2004 at 01:07 AM
" ... can be done without leaving the library" and, maybe even, you know, actually thinking.
Posted by: Ralph Luker | August 05, 2004 at 04:43 AM
Sure, you won't find nonsense like that in analytical philosophy. You'll be too busy considering brains in vats, and a train with Hitler on it, and shit like that.
Posted by: anonymouse | August 05, 2004 at 05:57 AM
On a serious note, what do you think the main differences are between the analytics and the continentals?
Posted by: Anthony Smith | August 05, 2004 at 12:14 PM
"Existatai gar pant' ap' allelon dicha."
-- epigraph, At Swim Two Birds
Posted by: nnyhav | August 05, 2004 at 08:01 PM
Accordians and Oompah bands. The Sudetenland. "I won't even insult your intelligence by connecting the dots."
Posted by: Des von Bladet | August 05, 2004 at 08:16 PM
Accordians and Oompah bands. The Sudetenland. "I won't even insult your intelligence by connecting the dots."
Posted by: Des von Bladet | August 05, 2004 at 08:16 PM
The difference between analytics and continentals is that analytics are rigorous and continentals are not. In continental philosophy, you can say just about anything you damn well please.
Posted by: Adam Kotsko | August 05, 2004 at 11:54 PM
That's not quite true, Adam.
Posted by: jholbo | August 05, 2004 at 11:57 PM
Analytic philosophers write about extremely useless things in a pointed and direct manner. Continental philosophers write about extremely important things in an obtuse and impenetrable manner.
Posted by: anonymouse | August 06, 2004 at 12:37 AM
Political theorists say nothing of good consequence in a direct manner about very important things. Social theorists are where it's at, these days, I think.
Posted by: anonymouse | August 06, 2004 at 12:46 AM
So would literary theorists be the ones who talk about extremely useless things in an obtuse and impenetrable manner?
(I find it interesting the Deleuze and Badiou, two figures from the continental tradition who are quite indisputably "real" philosophers, at least most of the time, also tend to work a lot more with math-oriented type of stuff, or in other words, stuff that might fit in among analytic philosophy. Simon Critchley has remarked that if you go back to Husserl and Frege, the two main figures of the contemporary division, you'd notice a different approach and emphasis, but not the radical break that seems to have followed since then. Someday, I will read Husserl and Frege -- in fact, why not make it today?)
Posted by: Adam Kotsko | August 06, 2004 at 05:56 AM
Who's talking about literary theorists? Might as well talk about the guy working at McDonald's. Sheesh. Usually the straw men that anti-theorists attack take the form of the foolishly eclectic literary theorists who are guilty of writing the most impenetrable prose.
Better to describe Deleuze as a formal philosopher, not necessarily a real one.
Posted by: anonymouse | August 06, 2004 at 10:15 AM
You intrigue me, anonymouse. An ingenious form of dialectical defense would seem to follow from your last comment. By perpetrating the most impenetrable prose - thereby transforming oneself into a straw man, in effect - one is immunized from attack. For any attacker can be soundly disparaged as attacking a complete straw man, which we all know is a kind of fallacy. As I have suggested in another context, perhaps we could then consider attacks on literary theorists to be straw dog arguments instead. The ritual destruction of hollow objects brings peace of mind.
Posted by: jholbo | August 06, 2004 at 04:38 PM
"Continental philosophers write about extremely important things in an obtuse and impenetrable manner."
"Political theorists say nothing of good consequence in a direct manner about very important things."
As someone to whom both of these labels apply, I find myself in general disagreement with anonymouse's proposed definitions. However, even if his descriptions are frequently accurate in particular cases, I would suggest that a strong moral defense can be made of centering one's vocation on "very important" and "extremely important" things, even if one's approach to such is often obtuse, impenetrable, or of little real-world consequence.
Posted by: Russell Arben Fox | August 06, 2004 at 08:22 PM
Well, I've always figured that if you can't find something obtuse and impenetrable to say about something then it can't be too important.
The most shameful grade I got in college was an essay on the quantum mechanical properties of Algonquian languages that earned me a B without anyone - me included - having the slightest idea what I said. Constesting the borders of the Canadian with hip-hop seems positively crystal by comparison. So I'm afraid the cited paragraph only seems moderately winceworthy to me. Except for the last sentence, which merits all the abuse you can heap on it.
"As Canadian as possible, under the circumstances." - if you have to voyage in a multiverse with only a contested identity to cover your naked ego, you could do worse than Canada. Hey, at least our state administrative practices are actively managing our blackness, instead of wasting it willy-nilly on folks like Michael Jackson and J-Lo. No, we take our blackness seriously in the True North, strong and free. We consider it a national resource to be conserved, like our water, oil, natural gas and finite reserves of biting comedy, donuts and Alanis Morissette.
Our blackness is fully protected by Canadian sovereignty, and we can't allow American hip-hop to come over and contest it. No siree, bob! I expect my state administratiuve apparatus to shelter and support our distinct Canadian blackness if it can stand up to the Yanks on its own. I pay taxes, I have a right to enjoy Canadian blackness instead of cheap imported blackness that you can just pick up at Walmart.
Why, if we let them contest our blackness, it'll be our socialised medicine next!
Posted by: Scott Martens | August 07, 2004 at 03:10 AM
I read that essay when it was still real cool underground shit, not some wack jive-ass compilation.
I would also tentatively argue that the Dream Warriors sucked.
Posted by: dsquared | August 10, 2004 at 05:41 AM