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May 08, 2005



Belle, on my iBook, I added (just for fun) the Danish character set to my options. If you have a little flag at the top of your screen, click there. I was able to add the Danish palette there, and more importantly, there's a tool called 'Keyboard Viewer'.

Open the Keyboard viewer, and when you press the alt/opt key, the special characters are highlighted on the keyboard.

I'm not sure if you can put your Greek font as a language option, but if you can, it probably will show up there.


belle waring

I have my greek font up there, but I can't find keyboard viewer?


Okay, do you have the option to Open International... under the flag on the top bar? If you do, go there (it just opens the System Preferences panel), and you can select the Keyboard Viewer to 'on'.


KeyboardViewer was new in Panther (Mac OS X 10.3) so if like me you have an earlier version of Mac OS X you don't have it, I'm afraid.

Otherwise, if you have OS X 10.3 or 10.4, you should be able to find KeyboardViewer if you click the flag in the menu bar, select Customize Menu and then click the Input tab. (Or open System Preferences and select International, which takes you to the same place).



Circumflexes can only be on long vowels, so no worries with the epsilon.

But I do all my Greek typing in LaTeX, so I have no love for you there.


Also useful is the Font Book, found in the Applications folder.

belle waring

andromeda: that's what I mean. I *can* type epsilon with a circumflex in this font by using option+shift+f. there must be some crazy metrical train wreck (or perhaps dialect form) that allows this to happen, but in any case it's not something I'm likely to ever, ever need. meanwhile, where is my damn epsilon with acute?

belle waring

grr. I can see all the characters I want in the preview mode of the font book, but it just don't say how to make'em. got to be something simple, that isn't shift, option, both, control...what the hell is it?


Belle, I'll forward your problem to the Greekiest-fontgeekiest person I know.

ben wolfson

But I do all my Greek typing in LaTeX, so I have no love for you there.

Wow. You must not type very much in Greek, unless there's a way of typing Greek in LaTeX other than entering math-mode and naming each character, $\epsilon$-style.


Anthony, I've mailed Belle off-blog.


One day perhaps I will be The Greekiest-fontgeekiest Superheroine at a costume party. (Sorry Belle, wish I could help. Happy teaching!)

Jon H


How about just using the special characters palette; click in the document where you want the character, then, in the character palette, select the character you want, and click the 'insert' button.


hmmm... I think I remember seeing a circumflex on an epsilon in some epigraph anthology (I was writing a paper on Archaic epitaphs at the time). Don't remember the name, though.


You'll get epsilon and omicron with circumflexes when an inscription uses epsilon/omicron where standard orthography uses eta/omega instead. Attic inscriptions only started using eta/omega in the late 5th century. So if an inscription had KETOS where the standard orthography has KH=TOS, the inscription will be transcribed as KE=TOS -- with the circumflex over the epsilon reminding you that this is really an eta. (Where there are no circumflexes, you just put a macron over the epsilon.)

So the practice is non-standard and anachronistic, used only in epigraphy. Since this is a specialist context, you don't see it in many glyph repertoires.





Indeed, that would be a goofy way to type Greek in LaTeX :). And I have typed extended blockquotes on several occasions, eg in the course of getting an MA in classics. \usepackage[greek, english]{babel} is your friend. Allows input in a relatively obvious manner, using punctuation for accents and so forth (from Odyssey VI.260-270:
>amf`i d`e te\~iqos >'elasse p'olei, ka`i >ede'imato o>ikous,/ka`i nho`us po'ihse je\~wn, ka`i >ed'assat' >aro'uras.").

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