And here you have it, a presumably staunch Republican for whom torture is an end in itself rather than an instrumental good. Volokh commenter Kazinski, on a post on Bush's spendthrift ways:
For all Bush has done right, tax cuts, Afghanistan, Iraq, Roberts and Alito, torturing Khalid Sheikh Mohammad, etc., his lack of discipline on domestic spending, especially the Medicare boondoggle are going to be a black mark on his presidency.
Well, at least he tortured that guy. Nobody can take that away from him.
I can top that. Watch:
Posted by: Katherine | October 26, 2007 at 01:24 PM
I do think, of course, that rendition should not be done with taxpayer funding but rather with corporate funding or charitable contributions.
AAAAAHHHH!!!! WTF!!1??/?!!!!
stop scaring me like that, katherine.
Posted by: belle waring | October 26, 2007 at 02:54 PM
"I do think, of course, that rendition should not be done with taxpayer funding but rather with corporate funding or charitable contributions."
Obviously, corporations that fund renditions should get a tax cut/break.
Obviously.
The -- yes, obvious -- step after that is corporate sponsorship of specific methods of tor--, of enhanced interrogation methods.
This waterboarding brought to you by Perrier!
No, they're French, that'll never do.
Posted by: Gary Farber | October 26, 2007 at 03:28 PM
GE's old jingle will do nicely here: We bring good things to light.
Posted by: bill benzon | October 26, 2007 at 06:12 PM
The -- yes, obvious -- step after that is corporate sponsorship of specific methods of tor--, of enhanced interrogation methods.
Gary, this has been happening for years. What do you think the Disneyworld "It's A Small World" ride is about?
Posted by: ajay | October 26, 2007 at 11:04 PM
It was actually the charitable contributions thing that got to me. "For the price of a cup of coffee, we could buy an extra 10 volts a day...."
Posted by: Katherine | October 26, 2007 at 11:18 PM
Gee, Katherine, you cut the best part of the comment:
"All those 'renditioned' have been renditioned from one nig-nog* country to another nig-nog country.
*I use the OED definition not Websters."
Posted by: dogfacegeorge | October 27, 2007 at 05:17 AM
He helpfully links to the Websters and OED defs of "nig-nog":
In Websters, "nig-nog" is British slang for a black person.
In OED, it is an "alternative original mildly derogatory meaning in the UK: 'a novice; a foolish or naive person'"
So see - he's careful to point out that he is not using the term "nig-nog" in any racial sense.
Posted by: dogfacegeorge | October 27, 2007 at 05:25 AM
If George Allen had only explained which dictionary he got his definition of "macaca" from.
Posted by: dogfacegeorge | October 27, 2007 at 05:27 AM
Which are the foolish or naive countries?
Posted by: ben wolfson | October 27, 2007 at 01:18 PM
"Gary, this has been happening for years. What do you think the Disneyworld 'It's A Small World' ride is about?"
You've got me there. I believe it also may explain Regis Philbin.
Posted by: Gary Farber | October 27, 2007 at 03:37 PM
It occurs to me that there's no reason "water"-boarding wouldn't be equally or more effective with, say, Coke, or Pepsi, or some other quintessentially American tasty beverage.
The sponsorship possibilities are far wider than just bottled water brands.
And released Guantanamo and other detainees can get endorsement deals!
"When I was water-boarded, it was with Mountain Dew, and not only was I filled with energy, I was almost glad to be water-boarded!
"Ha, just kidding! But if you have to be water-boarded, ask to be water-boarded with Mountain Dew! You'll be glad you did!"
Further along in the campaign, they can offer an update on the famous Taste Tests. Detainees will offered a chance to be water-boarded with Coke and Pepsi, and then asked which they prefer.
I think everyone will agree that this is win-win.
Posted by: Gary Farber | October 27, 2007 at 03:44 PM
In Australia, the word for a foolish or naive person is ning-nong. Spot the difference. I think the commenter on Volokh is just trying to be cute.
Posted by: Helen | October 30, 2007 at 09:31 AM
You've got me there. I believe it also may explain Regis Philbin.
For sure. I went on the It's a Small World ride aged 11. After five minutes I broke down and confessed to releasing man-eating honey badgers into Basra and the surrounding area.
Posted by: ajay | October 31, 2007 at 11:28 PM
In Websters, "nig-nog" is British slang for a black person.
In OED, it is an "alternative original mildly derogatory meaning in the UK: 'a novice; a foolish or naive person'"
During WWII it was an RAF term, I understand. A pregnant fairy. As in "don't stand around like a..."
Posted by: dave heasman | November 04, 2007 at 09:32 AM